Beat this donkey to death.

[Hedgehogey]

Eight minutes of doing things that mostly don't work in a way that doesn't work. It's not you that sucks. It's your art, its techniques, its testing methodology. Your test consists of manipulating a stooge who's terrified of the consequences of slapping you.

Go do judo before that happens to you.

Rock Ape, if you delete this, you turn us into MAP-lite. The Trad MA forums are not, and should never be, shelters for unscientific reasoning, relativistic fallacies or fursecution complexes.

[Rock Ape]

Eight minutes of doing things that mostly don't work in a way that doesn't work. It's not you that sucks. It's your art, its techniques, its testing methodology. Your test consists of manipulating a stooge who's terrified of the consequences of slapping you.

Go do judo before that happens to you.

Rock Ape, if you delete this, you turn us into MAP-lite. The Trad MA forums are not, and should never be, shelters for unscientific reasoning, relativistic fallacies or fursecution complexes.

I don't delete posts but, this thread wasn't and isn't about the EFFECTIVENESS of Aikido, you're trying to manipulate a conversation which is specifically about a guy's grading and how he may improve on what he does within the realms of the art he studies (warts and all) to something else.

Again, I'm not trying to create a "shelter" as you put it, what I am doing is ensuring an adult discussion specific to the thread's OP and stopping the associated bullshit which other members may try to introduce - there's plenty of other places on this forum for that sort of thread, and lord knows I've done my share of it however, this forum is not the place for it.

If you want to demonstrate/illustrate/discuss aspects of your opinion regarding the OP then I have no problems what so ever but if all you want to do is divert the discussion in to the realms of "aikido'nt" then yeah I will move your post(s) to YMAS where you can grammatically beat that dead donkey to death.. and I'll join you.

[WhiteShark]

OMG the Judo vs Aikido video had the most priceless facial expressions ever. The Judoka was genuinely surprised that the Aikidoka was that bad every time he threw him.

[Rock Ape]

I stopped watching as soon as I saw how fucking overweight that aikifuck was.

Seriously get in the fucking gym and stop eating cheeseburgers you fat Seagal ponytail wearing flump

[Ke?poFist]

LOL! I didn't even watch it yet, but I train at the gym in the Judo guy vs Aikido guy video. I've known Mark (The Judo guy) for years, hahaha!

[Rock Ape]

Nice.. tell him he's a legend for not handing that fatass his fatass on a plate.

[hpr]

The aikido guy seemed very frustrated and perplexed. Maybe because judo guy wasn't simply falling over all the time from looking at him funny?

He was also in a pretty horrible shape. Slow, slow action and a few falls and he seemed quite exhausted by the end of what, 4 minutes?

[Lindz]

Why did aikido guy spend so much time on his feet? Was judo guy afraid of his deadly wrist locks or something?

[hpr]

I think the Judo guy was just being nice.

[Lu Tze]

LOL! I didn't even watch it yet, but I train at the gym in the Judo guy vs Aikido guy video. I've known Mark (The Judo guy) for years, hahaha!

Tell him from me that I found his kumi kata strategy... interesting.

Was he being overly kind?

[clav]

I think the Judo guy was just being nice.

really nice

[Ke?poFist]

Tell him from me that I found his kumi kata strategy... interesting.

Was he being overly kind?

Haven't spoken to him about it, as this is the first I've seen of this video, but knowing him I can tell you, he's not an arrogant person, and is of the personality to let you try and work your stuff without just owning you to prove a point. He may have been able to put on a hilarious clinic of throws and sweeps, but the Hakama guy obviously came to his gym on good terms to get a taste of Judo and BJJ, and by the looks of things that's what he got.

[Lu Tze]

Yeah, that's what I thought.

As soon as you see him throw you can tell he's got some good Judo.

[Ke?poFist]

Yeah, that's what I thought.

As soon as you see him throw you can tell he's got some good Judo.

I've felt it first hand, and am kinda mad that I've been on the receiving end of far more demoralizing thrashings, for far less offenses than wearing a hakama on the mat :(

[Ke?poFist]

On topic though, it amazes me that as an art Aikido has lasted as long as it has. It's gotten to the point that even those who teach it often claim that the training isn't directly combat applicable, and it's more of a philosophy of movement or some bullshit like that.

It goes without saying, but I'll say it again anyway.. There's simply not enough reality checks in shitty martial arts training.