Beat this donkey to death.

[Rock Ape]

Therefore all we can say is el oh el aikidon't.

Sure you can, just not in the TMA forum. Thanks

Regardless of how you or others feel about aikido (which I might add is generally correct) no one here including you (other than staff members perhaps) has the right to stop or derail people having a serious discussion on their chosen activity.

The TMA forums were created to give TMAers the opportunity of discussing Traditional Martial Arts - warts and all - that will inevitably contain topics which would otherwise draw scorn from people such as you however, this place isn't MAP it will never be MAP thus, whilst these subjects will come up from time to time, if the questions associated with these topics are presented in a genuine way from someone who has an interest then how about cutting some slack within the TAM forums and allow people like myself, DCS and others who understand the pitfalls and bullshit of such arts (aikido in this case) to educate those who don't know better. If they're willing to listen to reason then the thread remains on track and within the realms of a serious discussion, if however, it devolves into a conversation of nonsense then it will get moved, here most likely or Trollshido, then feel free to haze such idiots to death. Just don't do that in the TMA forums, that's all I ask.

I'd like to encourage discussion which would otherwise be shied away from, that way people, including you can offer information which educates rather than berates. After all this is a consumer website and it stands to reason that if we can let the unsuspecting know what the issues are with their studies/arts/attitudes then we're doing what this site does best, IMHO.

[Sorekara]

You lose because you're a fucking retard - sarcasm or not.

I don't get it.

[Rock Ape]

I don't get it.

Good.

[KO'd N DOA]

For all the throws the Judoka gave out, the Ukemi in Aikido protected him, and he was smaller. By that measure alone, Aikido demonstrated merit.

[alex]

what? i could have done better against those throws than that guy.

[Super8astard]

what? i could have done better against those throws than that guy.

You're not a fat Seagal Jr though.

[Lu Tze]

For all the throws the Judoka gave out, the Ukemi in Aikido protected him, and he was smaller. By that measure alone, Aikido demonstrated merit.

Judo is designed to land your opponent safely.

[BKR]

On topic though, it amazes me that as an art Aikido has lasted as long as it has. It's gotten to the point that even those who teach it often claim that the training isn't directly combat applicable, and it's more of a philosophy of movement or some bullshit like that.

It goes without saying, but I'll say it again anyway.. There's simply not enough reality checks in shitty martial arts training.

If you keep taking aikido out of context, you will remain confused. Educate yourself about aikido, it's origins, it's founder, roots and history, and it will make more sense to you.

[adouglasmhor]

I've got ginsters in the fridge, and thats my only comment on this debacle.

Pukka > Ginsters

[Yoj]

Pukka > Ginsters

You may be right, I found a local pie for local people down in the New Forest last year, and they were pretty frikking good, even after days crushed in the icebox.

[Cullion]

Fray Bentos steak and ale. Keeping it real.

[Cake of Doom]

Putting a pie in a tin can was a stroke of genius.

[Rock Ape]

Putting a pie in a tin can was a stroke of genius.

Some wench putting a pie on plate for me, having cooked it, would be even better.

[Ignorami]

Some wench putting a pie on plate for me, having cooked it, would be even better.

On a plate????? What the fuck is wrong with a greasy foil tray, and a bit of kitchen roll?

Seriously, Afganistan has made you soft.

[DCS]

Oh noes!!! the brits talking about haute cuisine...