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    #31
    Yea thats why I only commented on my experience from the clubs I belong to. Wearing his blue belt to class is a little lame, but hey at least the guy wants to train Judo instead of adopting the "BJJ is undefeatable and a complete style" mentality. Did anyone offer him a loner belt? If not then its not entirely his fault, you have to keep your kimono together somehow.Now if he was offere a loner belt and refused then its a different story. Definitely agree with you about the fact that Blue belts range from mediocre to amazing, but that also has to do with the fact that blue belts stay blue belts for about three years. I see how it irked you, but maybe its a little prejudice on your part. Jits is very popular right now, and is definitely a band wagon sport. But try to keep in mind that most people that train jits to be apart of the cool club usually drop out before blue belt. Blue belt is a pretty big step in Jits and at the the very least shows he has a lot of dedication and at least some skill.

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      #32
      1. It isn't our job to teach someone basic politeness. It is consider a challenge to walk into a dojo and do that. You don't offer someone a "loaner" who hasn't asked for it.

      2. There is no prejudice on my part. I did BJJ. I love BJJ. He was a half-educated douche.

      3. I do not consider a blue belt a "pretty big step" in "jits". I consider the beginning of not being a beginner. But that is just my opinion. I consider being a blue belt for several years a big step.

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        #33
        Here are my dimestore observations as a shitty BJJ blue and even shitter Judo green:

        Judo players do not have the world's best guards. I have a much easier time passing guard in my judo training, while it's a real pain in the ass in BJJ. I have found that Judo players have CRUSHING top games and have the ability to hold me down better than in BJJ training. BJJ player's desire to submit an opponent often provides the opportunity to escape from inferior positions. From a self defense perspective, I'd give both disciplines equal effectiveness.

        From a standing perspective, Judo is a men among boys. I feel like a helpless child against higher ranks with a considerable size disadvantage. I love and respect BJJ, but Judo is a much more balanced art that's perfect for self defense.

        Anyone with the audacity to wear a BJJ blue belt to a Judo class is a tool in my book.

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          #34
          Have you guys ever heard my rants about BJJ Blues? Biggest concentration of douchbags I've ever encountered.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Omega Supreme View Post
            Have you guys ever heard my rants about BJJ Blues? Biggest concentration of douchbags I've ever encountered.
            No I haven't...care to elaborate?

            I know a bjj guy who is a purple belt (I think?) who crosstrains at our dojo. Real friendly guy and is a brown in judo (never ever wears his bjj belt in our classes). So I guess the amount of ego one has is dependant on the person alone.

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              #36
              yeah but we want to hear more. The douchebaggery has not been mined completely for our entertainment.

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                #37
                Now, I said blue belts. Those who tend to go further tend to have the right attitude. I may share some anecdotes later. Not tonight-drinking martinis and watching UFC right now.

                On that note: Chris Cope=MMA Ric Flair.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by crappler View Post
                  yeah but we want to hear more. The douchebaggery has not been mined completely for our entertainment.
                  Not sufficiently mined indeed.

                  I still don't have a single response to my last post, and considering what I posted, quite frankly I'm stunned that there hasn't been any comment ^_^.

                  With regard to the high concentration of douchebaggery in BJJ blues, the BJJ blue belts that I know personally are free of douchebaggery, and faggotry in general. None of them would ever wear their BJJ belt to Judo. They all wear their Judo Belts at Judo...

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                    #39
                    Blue and White belts are mostly fucking retarded. I would know I was one of those retarded blue belts, I had to get it crushed out of me.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by judoka_uk View Post
                      What's a kickstand armbar?

                      From kesa gatame you trap the wrist with your top leg and stretch it out, putting pressure on the elbow with your bottom leg. I've seen a couple of judo guys do it, I learned it in BJJ but we don't use Kesa much, so we don't use it very often.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Kintanon View Post
                        From kesa gatame you trap the wrist with your top leg and stretch it out, putting pressure on the elbow with your bottom leg. I've seen a couple of judo guys do it, I learned it in BJJ but we don't use Kesa much, so we don't use it very often.

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                          #42
                          I think it goes without saying that the more advanced you are in a martial art the less of douche you are when going to other schools, when I said blue belt is a big step I dont think I misspoke. It doesnt make you a master or a badass, but I do believe it shows a lot of dedication to stick with it that long without being promoted as fast as you would with other MA. Its the reason why I would say 50% of people at my gym quit before they make blue.When people at work ask me how long ive been training and what belt I am, and I say white they get an incongruous look on their faces. They think Im a slacker because they mostly know about TKD and krotty and figure if I have been training for over a year and Im still a white belt I either dont actually train or I really suck. In reality I train a few times a week and I only Kinda suck. So theyre only half right. Dojo etiquette is important but I think its more a symptom of society that its not an inherent trait nowadays than a reflection on BJJ blue belts as a whole. If you compare your average 24 year old Blue belt and compare him to any other 24 year old from the same area and its not likely youre going to see much of a difference in terms of etiquette.

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                            #43
                            Yup, that's it. Around the 40 second mark, though the way I was taught you go ahead and hook the knee over the wrist to trap it instead of just squeezing down.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Kintanon View Post
                              From kesa gatame you trap the wrist with your top leg and stretch it out, putting pressure on the elbow with your bottom leg. I've seen a couple of judo guys do it, I learned it in BJJ but we don't use Kesa much, so we don't use it very often.
                              Gotcha, I know what you mean. Its one of those submissions you tend to see more in Judo than BJJ.

                              I can't remember the name its either Hiza gatame or Ude gatame with the legs, something like that.

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                                #45
                                Any belt, any style, some guys are jerks. They can be clueless, harmless jerks that get threads made about them on the internet; or they can be dangerous, go-too-hard-to-showoff jerks who should be dealt with accordingly.

                                I salute those that put the latter in their place.

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