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  • Colin
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    Originally posted by BKR View Post
    8 years is plenty of time to reach shodan.
    It certainly is. In fact, 5 years is pretty normal for Aikidoka.
    Over the 8 year period, I had different training patterns.
    average was 2 sessions per week for the first 5 years.
    I didn't really step up the pace until 2001, where I trained 3 sessions a week and taught one session (yep, teaching with no teaching rank OMG THE BLASPHEMY)

    Trivia: 6th Kyu is the lowest Aikido rank in the organisation i was in.
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  • BKR
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    Originally posted by Colin View Post
    Firstly, I think it's interesting that my rank in Aikido is somehow more important to you than my actual level of experience, and in addition, I didn't even mention my Judo rank, and still haven't.
    If you want to make a serious thread out of this, fine.

    You mentioned being some sort of kyu grade in aikido, with 8 years of experience. That suggests to me that you didn't practice much, or steadily. I've known quite a few serious aikido practioners over the years, and 8 years is plenty of time to reach shodan. Your experience in Judo you noted 2 years, which could mean once a week for 2 years, etc. So, I assume you are some sort of kyu grade in Judo as well. With 2-4 days a week of training, you could be a sankyu. Not a teaching grade in Judo at all. Your ukemi would probably be pretty good, though, if you practiced steadily.

    So, yes, rank is tied to experience level.

    You might well be reasonably capable of teaching ukemi as a kyu grade aikidoka.

    BTW, I'm not suggesting you not start these low grade troll threads at all, or any other thread at all for that matter based on whatever qualifications you might or might not have for the subject.

    Ben

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  • judoka_uk
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    Originally posted by Lindz View Post
    What if you'd actually gotten decent at it?
    If I'd kept up the Muay Thai and MMA training then I might have actually developed some of the skills to closing distance and space rather than the self created retard rush.

    A big problem was that we were practicing on a mat not in a cage or ring, so there was always space for the person to get away and if we got near the mat edge they could just step off and we had to restart.

    Not trying to defend the retard rush, its only for noobs hence why I'm calling it the retard rush.

    I also worked on a face punch de ashi barai combo, but that only worked on people even noobier than me. Was funny though.

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  • Permalost
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    Originally posted by Ignorami View Post
    One of ours managed a rolling ukemi over a car roof from his bicycle, when a lady pulled out in front of him.
    Like a month ago this happened to me while I was skateboarding. The roll over the car hood was nice and smooth, but when I slid off the edge of it my landing on the street was less than graceful. When I started getting up, the asshole sped away.

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  • Colin
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    Originally posted by BKR View Post
    Maybe I misread your rank in aikido after 8 years, and your rank in Judo after two years? Correct me if I'm wrong.

    As far as teaching ukemi, being able to do it and being able to teach it are two different things.

    Ben
    Firstly, I think it's interesting that my rank in Aikido is somehow more important to you than my actual level of experience, and in addition, I didn't even mention my Judo rank, and still haven't.

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  • Ignorami
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    Originally posted by judoka_uk View Post
    I've done a zenpo kaiten ukemi off a moving farm truck onto a field, no video though unfortunately.
    One of ours managed a rolling ukemi over a car roof from his bicycle, when a lady pulled out in front of him.

    While ukeing for a particularly uncontrolled first kyu grading (twat candidate), the same guy rolled up an internal brick buttress and came down on his feet.

    Sadly I can't take credit for teaching him any of that. He came to us pre-trained. I visited his old dojo once though, and the matting goes to the edge of the room, and about 3-4 feet up the walls.

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  • BKR
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    Originally posted by Colin View Post
    This is a pretty unfair comment.
    Rating or no rating? I'm really not too fussed about - though you claim I know next to nothing about Ukemi?
    Maybe I misread your rank in aikido after 8 years, and your rank in Judo after two years? Correct me if I'm wrong.

    As far as teaching ukemi, being able to do it and being able to teach it are two different things.

    Ben

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  • Just Guess
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    Originally posted by Lindz View Post
    What if you'd actually gotten decent at it?
    If he got decent at what, failing the retard rush or getting punched in the face?

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  • Colin
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    Originally posted by Lindz View Post
    What if you'd actually gotten decent at it?
    Either A:
    In that case, I'd assert that his 'retard rush' (I have one of those, too) would give him a good clinch occasionally.

    or B:
    Karo Parysian

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  • Lindz
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    Originally posted by judoka_uk View Post
    I trained Muay Thai...the actual product was crappy jab, crappy jab, sloppy low kick, cappy jab, retard rush, clinch, Harai goshi, get mount whilst they're still trying to work out what has happened and then tapy-tapy gnp.

    The only flaw in this world conquering strategy is when they evade the retard rush or the retard rush doesn't let you get a decent clinch and they manage to slip out before you have control. Then it becomes me chasing them around the mat whilst being hit in the face.
    What if you'd actually gotten decent at it?

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  • judoka_uk
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    Originally posted by Sang View Post
    *Colin ges Harai Goshi'd off a moving vehicle* before i can give your teaching the green light.
    I've done a zenpo kaiten ukemi off a moving farm truck onto a field, no video though unfortunately.

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  • Colin
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    Originally posted by Sang View Post
    I need to see videos of you being slammed, thrown and tripped under realistic conditions such as *suprise suplex on ice!* and *Colin ges Harai Goshi'd off a moving vehicle* before i can give your teaching the green light.
    This would be worth doing just for the awesomeness of it. I probably WON'T do anything like this, but it would definitely be AWESOME :D

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  • Sang
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    I'm having a world of fun combining muay thai clinch work with no gi takedowns at this mma gym. Smaller gloves, endless clinching without ref breaking and the removal of archaic MT takedown rules like 'no boot to boot sweeps' makes for a hell of a lot of fun.

    Personally i would love to see a thai boxer with good leg kicks and authentic clinch skills (extremely rare in the western world) combined with high level judo skills compete in mma.

    Colin; i don't have a problem with what you are doing, imo it is no different from a gym regular with a TKD background showing guys how to do spinning back kicks. Its ok as long as the TKD guy knows wtf he is doing.

    i need to see videos of you being slammed, thrown and tripped under realistic conditions such as *suprise suplex on ice!* and *Colin ges Harai Goshi'd off a moving vehicle* before i can give your teaching the green light.

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  • judoka_uk
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    I trained Muay Thai as a striking art when I was dabbling in MMA and was thinking of working towards a fight.

    My game plan was take the striking and range closing to clinch of Muay Thai and then throw them and gnp.

    I only trained Muay Thai and MMA for a few months though. So the actual product was crappy jab, crappy jab, sloppy low kick, cappy jab, retard rush, clinch, Harai goshi, get mount whilst they're still trying to work out what has happened and then tapy-tapy gnp.

    The only flaw in this world conquering strategy is when they evade the retard rush or the retard rush doesn't let you get a decent clinch and they manage to slip out before you have control. Then it becomes me chasing them around the mat whilst being hit in the face.

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  • War Wizard
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    Off Topic - This talk about Muay Thai and Judo has me thinking, what would that look like in an MMA type setting? It's frequently mentioned that Muay Thai and BJJ are a great combo, as are Boxing and Judo, but what about Muay Thai and Judo? Shame there's not a MT place nearby for me to test it out...

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