@Aikido/Aikijujutsu Practicality

[Ronin Phoenix]

Youtube "Matt Thornton". Watch with wide eyed amazement as your entire concept of useful training is remodelled. Return here and thanks us. Do Judo.

so this guy is suggesting that military commando arts are inferior to a sport martial art because he had some fat asses in camo come to his school and fail, oh christ....get fucked. Gents I've worked SOF support for 10+ years I've trained/cross trained numerous systems including krav maga with isreailes, Sambo with Russians, and a myriad of shit with CTPT, Jordanians, pesh merga, etc...BJJ can work, not saying it shit...but it isnt geared for multi attacker, its a sport at its inception with SOME potential combat applications, the way he shits on military arts makes me want to spear him in the trachea and see how much shit he talks...good god, believe this BS if ya want to. He served with and trained with who/where? theres a reason SOF leaves BJJ for conventional Army "combatives" and explores else and other...because it isnt enough. nuff said.

[It is Fake]

Bruce Lee would be slapping the shit out of you for using teeth the way you are sucking his dick.

[Jim_Jude]

Wow, can we all take a moment learn how to properly use the inline Quote feature so that you're not constantly incorrectly attributing quotes?

Some of the idiots in the thread seemed to start making sense until I realized what they were quoted as saying was actually written by completely different, sense-making folks.

yeah, you guys should do that.

[Mister]

I think I know why the thread started misquoting...

FinalLegion, when he splits a post in parts, he adds a quote with a poster's name and splits the rest of the post with quotes without the name but doesn't add an unquote to the one with poster's name in the end.

So there's always an extra quote, and as people keep quoting the extra quote is credited with the previous poster's name, and it keeps going off...

Like a chain reaction. Pretty cool, starts at post #137.

I have way too much free time on my hands...

[Ignorami]

There was a point about mid thread, when the site appeared to miss-crediting quotes, and in a couple of instances, my quotes were crediting two people (badly enough that the code broke, and I could spot it immediately.)

It may be that some of the retard-quoting can be blamed on that.

[W. Rabbit]

Wow, can we all take a moment learn how to properly use the inline Quote feature so that you're not constantly incorrectly attributing quotes?

Some of the idiots in the thread seemed to start making sense until I realized what they were quoted as saying was actually written by completely different, sense-making folks.

[Jim_Jude]

Ironically Bruce talked the talk, but didnt exactly walk the walk.

He wouldn't even spar Al Novak.

[Rene "Zendokan" Gysenbergs]

Just reread post number 23 of this thread!

[Jim_Jude]

Retards, the lot of you.

Go pump some iron, or your girlfriend/boyfriend

Man, I anally rape my girlfriend all the time (or at least it would be rape if she didn't love it so much), but I'm no better at throwing ninja stars than I was before. What should I do?

[Mister]

The point is, which you missed, that uke is NOT delivering a strike that would actually hit tori, no matter how hard or fast he was striking.

I'm sure that the tori is capable of handling a prearranged blow done full force in the normal shomen uchi manner, it's just that uke is not doing that.

This is a common problem in a lot of self defense training against blows-uke is not really trying to hit uke, even softly.

You see this also in the Nage No Kata of Judo in the throws Ippon Seoi Nage, Uki Goshi, Ura Nage, and Yoko Guruma, and in the Goshin Jutsu (of Judo) as well. Uke doesn't hit anywhere near the target, which makes the practice unrealistic.

I'm a sometime uke for a woman who is quite skilled at nage no kata and goshin jutsu (no kata) of Judo. I actually try to hit her with force, accuracy, and speed when doing the blows.

I understand your point, thanks.

[BKR]

From my limited experience I think it doesn't matter how hard Uke hits in a demonstration, because Tori already knows what attack is coming so he can react to it pretty much at any power using his entire body.

The only difference would be Uke getting his arm hit hard against Tori's arm or not.

In a demonstration or explanation most people choose not to, as it's not necessary to hit hard, I've also seen this in my Judo Dojo where Sensei would be explaining something or a concept and Uke would just be standing and not resisting.

I believe an explanation is usually like that. As long as the hit is aimed at the right place with the right angle and uke's position is correct...

In actual training (in my Dojo) some people with more guts and more seriousness about training will hit as hard as possible and other people will be soft.

That is my experience anyway, I could be wrong and I apologize in advance if I'm being presumptuous about the Judo reference, because I don't know anything about Judo yet, it's only what I've seen.

The point is, which you missed, that uke is NOT delivering a strike that would actually hit tori, no matter how hard or fast he was striking.

I'm sure that the tori is capable of handling a prearranged blow done full force in the normal shomen uchi manner, it's just that uke is not doing that.

This is a common problem in a lot of self defense training against blows-uke is not really trying to hit uke, even softly.

You see this also in the Nage No Kata of Judo in the throws Ippon Seoi Nage, Uki Goshi, Ura Nage, and Yoko Guruma, and in the Goshin Jutsu (of Judo) as well. Uke doesn't hit anywhere near the target, which makes the practice unrealistic.

I'm a sometime uke for a woman who is quite skilled at nage no kata and goshin jutsu (no kata) of Judo. I actually try to hit her with force, accuracy, and speed when doing the blows.

[The Juggernoob]

That is my experience anyway, I could be wrong and I apologize in advance if I'm being presumptuous about the Judo reference, because I don't know anything about Judo yet, it's only what I've seen.

Thats how you demonstrate a technique. Once thats over, its all about landing them on people who want to dump you.

[Mister]

And yet, uke is not really trying to hit tori, even if it is with the "sword hand" type of atemi. Just look carefully, he strikes to the side and pulls the blow as well.

From my limited experience I think it doesn't matter how hard Uke hits in a demonstration, because Tori already knows what attack is coming so he can react to it pretty much at any power using his entire body.

The only difference would be Uke getting his arm hit hard against Tori's arm or not.

In a demonstration or explanation most people choose not to, as it's not necessary to hit hard, I've also seen this in my Judo Dojo where Sensei would be explaining something or a concept and Uke would just be standing and not resisting.

I believe an explanation is usually like that. As long as the hit is aimed at the right place with the right angle and uke's position is correct...

In actual training (in my Dojo) some people with more guts and more seriousness about training will hit as hard as possible and other people will be soft.

That is my experience anyway, I could be wrong and I apologize in advance if I'm being presumptuous about the Judo reference, because I don't know anything about Judo yet, it's only what I've seen.

[Ignorami]

As a matter of fact I do. More interestingly though, flushing a toilet releases thousands of times more bacteria into the air than a blast of regular ass gas.

I just went from hating your posts in this thread to loving them in the space of a single paragraph.
Would +rep if allowed.

[FinalLegion]

[QUOTE=The Juggernoob;2608463]

As a matter of fact I do. More interestingly though, flushing a toilet releases thousands of times more bacteria into the air than a blast of regular ass gas.

Really? Geez even our toilets are out to get us.