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I want to be a bouncer, should I then learn judo?

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    I want to be a bouncer, should I then learn judo?

    Hi bullshido,

    I want to be a bouncer eventually, I'm not big enough yet but I've been doing small parties a few times a year now (you know, mostly white teenagers to deal with). When I get big enough I can start doing some real things.

    Thing is, I don't really know how to fight. Well I've had 2 years of kick boxing at 16 years old (years ago) and 3 years of filipino martial arts (mostly single stick, some empty hands) which is also years ago. I've been in a few street fights, got beat up a few times, beat people up a few times. I just punched and elbowed their face like the filipino instructor taught us.

    Now I was thinking I should learn how to judo because

    *people wear jackets to clubs mostly
    *judo can teach how to control people without getting charged with assault and battery

    Should I also learn some boxing tho?

    I want to be able to really use something fast in the span of 2 years. Of course I'd keep practicing after that, but I need to be able to use it as soon as possible, so aikido seems too complicated. People said "learn krav maga, it's easy to learn and hard to forget" but it seems like a mixture of judo and (dirty) (kick) boxing, I'd rather learn solid basics of one thing instead of suck at several things.


    Advice from bouncers or judo players would be great.

    #2
    I've been taking a look at the gyms in my area and I could take a 1hour boxing class and a 1.5 hour judo class on saturday. Would only be able to train once a week, because the times during the week are not compatible with my work shedule.

    The boxing gym teaches kick boxing at the same time but I think boxing would be better because it teaches head movement, ducking etc more, which would make it easier to apply the judo to punching people? Nobody every kicks you really in a club.


    Hope to see some replies, thanks again

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      #3
      The general consensus (having seen enough judo posts in other threads) seems to be: learn judo, whether you intend to become a bouncer or not. Judo + boxing? Good stuff.

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        #4
        Is that truely what you want to do, or are you attracted by something else?



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          #5
          Hey Newbie, welcome.

          Judo is pretty good for bouncing were I bounce we have 3 Judo black belts, and they are very good at putting people on there ass. Now the club I work at is huge 4 floors, 4 bars, capacity of about 1200, and most wednesdays, Fridays and saturdays its full to capacity. There are 12 bouncers, including 2 heads of security, the ones style is Amok and kung fu the other is a Ninjutsu black belt, he is actually the most effective at removing people from the club, all you hear is... ah ah wait your going to break it and we know he is busy escorting someone out.

          Now I dont know how it works in the states but we dont generally punch or kick people, I would get fired if I knocked someone out in the club. My greatest weopon as a bouncer is a smile and a good attitude.

          As for using Judo without being charged for assault, well our one bouncer, gave a nice hip throw to a guy who wouldn't calm down, the guy hit the pavement pretty hard and as a result ...... Lawsuit.

          But my answer to your question is learn MMA, but thats my answer when my roomate asks whats for breakfast, or a client phones and asks what time can they see me, or anything in life.

          Judo and boxing ia good combo for fighting in general.

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            #6
            Originally posted by PizDoff View Post
            Is that truely what you want to do, or are you attracted by something else?
            I'm not sure what you mean, but I suppose judo seems attractive for bouncing because you can off balance people and immobilize them without punching them etc (legal problems)

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              #7
              Originally posted by Like_A_Boss View Post
              Now I dont know how it works in the states but we dont generally punch or kick people, I would get fired if I knocked someone out in the club. My greatest weopon as a bouncer is a smile and a good attitude..
              Well that's an excellent point, but you need a certain amount of intimidation factor to go along with the smiling attitude so that people will see you as an authority. That's why bouncers are so pre occupied with building up large amounts of muscle mass. But the times it does get physical you'd look like a totall ass if you didn't know how to control the person right? And all strength, no technique doesn't really work out too well.

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                #8
                Learn verbal judo first. Being a good bouncer is about defusing potentially volatile situations. Its not all like Roadhouse. If you get into a physical altercation then you have failed at the most important part of your job as a bouncer.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by soldiermedic25 View Post
                  Learn verbal judo first. Being a good bouncer is about defusing potentially volatile situations. Its not all like Roadhouse. If you get into a physical altercation then you have failed at the most important part of your job as a bouncer.
                  usually people start fighting and then the bouncers have to escort them out.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by newbie1 View Post
                    Well that's an excellent point, but you need a certain amount of intimidation factor to go along with the smiling attitude so that people will see you as an authority. That's why bouncers are so pre occupied with building up large amounts of muscle mass.
                    Really? Many bouncers I've seen are pre-occupied with building up large amounts of belly mass. And places around here often have some smaller dude to play goodie. He comes up and asks if there are any problems, and if the troublemaker just shrugs and grumbles and goes back to his drink, it all cool. If he starts stepping to the smaller bouncer, then the elephants waddle over and eject the guy.

                    A friend of mine, and one of my uncles, were bouncers for years. They were pretty muscular but not huge—well under six foot and under 200 lbs. They were just personable and confident and not worried about looking "like a totall ass".
                    Last edited by Rivington; 3/05/2011 10:26am, .

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rivington View Post
                      Really? Many bouncers I've seen are pre-occupied with building up large amounts of belly mass. And places around here often have some smaller dude to play goodie. He comes up and asks if there are any problems, and if the troublemaker just shrugs and grumbles and goes back to his drink, it all cool. If he starts stepping to the smaller bouncer, then the elephants waddle over and eject the guy.

                      A friend of mine, and one of my uncles, were bouncers for years. They were pretty muscular but not huge—well under six foot and under 200 lbs. They were just personable and confident and not worried about looking "like a totall ass".
                      The big clubs I've been to had really muscular and tall bouncers. I would not be surprised they were doing anabolic steroids. Anyway some guys are really muscular with a gut, look at heavyweight athletes.

                      I've traveled to many countries for holidays and when I went to strip clubs and clubs there the bouncers were absolutely advanced bodybuilders

                      (not trying to argue, just sharing)

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                        #12
                        Do you really want to be a bodybuilder, and are considering bouncing to support the time one needs to spend on it?

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Rivington View Post
                          Do you really want to be a bodybuilder, and are considering bouncing to support the time one needs to spend on it?
                          little bit of both actually (well powerlifting, which is not very different but actually very different), it seems to work both ways. but i definitely need to learn some judo or something because just being strong is not going to do much if you don't have the mechanics

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                            #14
                            You can always use your new bulk to move pianos!

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Rivington View Post
                              You can always use your new bulk to move pianos!
                              well maybe, but bouncing probably earns more money

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