Shou Shu; any redeeming factors?

[Rayneveres]

the consensus among the site, with the exception of fanboys, seems to be that it's a bunch of bullshit.

however, i'm curious if there are any redeeming factors to it. i took it a while back, and enjoyed it, and thought it made me a veritable badass at the time.

fast forward a few years, it's not quite the case anymore. i've learned a lot more practical things over the years just by messing around with friends, however, i feel like there are some elements that still come out in the wash, so to speak. mostly, it's the win-by-any-means-necessary attitude, but certain blocking and striking habits still exist.

i just want to know if there was anything redeeming or fundamentally good about what i learned, or if i should just forget about it, mourn the wasted time, and then go jump into a BJJ and Judo class like everyone else seems to be doing these days.

[Rzero]

forget about it, mourn the wasted time, and then go jump into a BJJ and Judo class like everyone else seems to be doing these days.

Dont know shit about Shou Shu but I'm pretty sure this is going to be the answer you will get.

[Squerlli]

San Shou/San Da is fucking awesome. You just have to find a good school.

[It is Fake]

San Shou/San Da is fucking awesome. You just have to find a good school.

Good post wrong thread.

Shou Shu is an art that people have suddenly been asking about over the last few months again.

He didn't misspell SanShou.

the consensus among the site, with the exception of fanboys, seems to be that it's a bunch of bullshit.

however, i'm curious if there are any redeeming factors to it. i took it a while back, and enjoyed it, and thought it made me a veritable badass at the time.

fast forward a few years, it's not quite the case anymore. i've learned a lot more practical things over the years just by messing around with friends, however, i feel like there are some elements that still come out in the wash, so to speak. mostly, it's the win-by-any-means-necessary attitude, but certain blocking and striking habits still exist.

i just want to know if there was anything redeeming or fundamentally good about what i learned, or if i should just forget about it, mourn the wasted time, and then go jump into a BJJ and Judo class like everyone else seems to be doing these days.

Read that aloud and realize how silly it sounds.

[Permalost]

Well, you're probably a little better than the average person at kicking someone in the groin.

[Psycho Dad]

Well, the last time a practitioner of Shou Shu wandered into this site he produced a brief moment of entertainment for the forum considering he quickly went from "We don't fight with rules in Shou Shu" to "C'mon guys, I know I talked about having no rules in fighting but there is still a line!"

[Rayneveres]

Well, the last time a practitioner of Shou Shu wandered into this site he produced a brief moment of entertainment for the forum considering he quickly went from "We don't fight with rules in Shou Shu" to "C'mon guys, I know I talked about having no rules in fighting but there is still a line!"

that's hilarious.


all i'm really trying to do is get back in to MA, and find a good way to do that so i stand less of a chance of getting my head kicked in.

[Larus marinus]

Well, the last time a practitioner of Shou Shu wandered into this site he produced a brief moment of entertainment for the forum considering he quickly went from "We don't fight with rules in Shou Shu" to "C'mon guys, I know I talked about having no rules in fighting but there is still a line!"

Was that the kid who claimed he could beat off 20 guys at the same time - then told people to come fight his sifu?

[Snake Plissken]

that's hilarious.

from this:

i feel like there are some elements that still come out in the wash

what is it that keeps coming out in the wash? what fundamentals? how long did you train this?

all i'm really trying to do is get back in to MA

if you tell us what you keep falling back on, it will help determine what you like (or it might simply be what you learned).
Also, what is available to you in the area?

and find a good way to do that so i stand less of a chance of getting my head kicked in.

Don't get into fights, don't be an ass and always be polite.

[Omega Supreme]

I've met one guy who did Shou Shu and was a professional fighter with a half decent fight record. So *shrug....He was also a GJJ blue.

[Vieux Normand]

Was that the kid who claimed he could beat off 20 guys at the same time...

That's ten cocks per hand.

Unless there are foot-jobs included.

Still, pretty fucking small cocks...

[Psycho Dad]

Was that the kid who claimed he could beat off 20 guys at the same time - then told people to come fight his sifu?

Yes indeed.

[Larus marinus]

Yes indeed.

Oh yeah, he was telling us about how he lived in the ghetto (just a poor boy from a poor family) and got into streetfights with gang members all the time, or whatever.

Someone looked it up (if this was the same guy) and it turned out that the place was more 'Starbucks jungle' than urban jungle...

That was a funny thread.

[Psycho Dad]

For those who missed it the first time, here's the original thread and lulz.

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=94045

[Rayneveres]

from this:

what is it that keeps coming out in the wash? what fundamentals? how long did you train this?


if you tell us what you keep falling back on, it will help determine what you like (or it might simply be what you learned).
Also, what is available to you in the area?


Don't get into fights, don't be an ass and always be polite.

I trained for about 6-7 months, but i was there almost every day.

the general idea that i took away from Shou Shu was be quick and sharp with your strikes, and keep your limbs close to better protect your body/face and not give your opponent something to grab onto. i also learned to keep your center of gravity low, so you're harder to knock over.
we focused a lot on striking areas with high densities of nerves, like the nose, behind the jaw, groin, etc. with the point being to try to cause as much damage and/or pain as possible in a single blow.

it was like min/max-ing, except instead of an RPG or Starcraft, it was real-life.

i've been fortunate enough to be able to talk my way out of every potential violent conflict thus far, but i know there will come a time when shit will get hot.




also, i've done drills and light sparring with friends over the years, and found that i'm a fan of close combat, (elbows, knees, grabs, and throws,) which i think works for me because i'm stocky and my legs don't have any significant range advantage over my arms. would cross-training Judo + Muay Thai be a good idea?

i think we have a Krav Maga school here, along with a Judo and possibly a BJJ school too.
however, the problem with living in a backwater town like mine, is that it's a breeding ground for McDojo's.



my apologies if i seem ignorant about the subject; i am. i'm trying to fix that though, =D