Gracie Combatives MABS Cull: Why is IiF laughing at my "Paper Tiger" comment?

[DerAuslander]

Shhh he is smarter than you and a Legal Expert. Stop posting.

TEHRAN!!!

[W. Rabbit]

Blinding by acid isn't the same as poking an eye.
It would be easier to prove you intended on blinding the person with acid then it would be a stray finger

I was bringing attention to the "eye for an eye" concepts which are alive and well in the law of some countries, such as Islamic nations, so it's conceivable that taking someone's eye out in a streetfight or other situation could lead to a nasty decision by, say, a Sharia court, depending on the "facts" of the case, which we all know may not fit with reality. Keep in mind some of these countries still stone women for showing skin.

So, depending on the jurisdiction, the kind of techniques you use for self defense can indeed get you in serious (bodily) trouble, even if in the heat of the moment they seem justified. For that reason I think it always makes sense in a self defense situation to use the least amount of force necessary, as opposed to t43 d34dly.

[DerAuslander]

Your logic is very different from our Earth logic.

[Snake Plissken]

I was bringing attention to the "eye for an eye" concepts which are alive and well in the law of some countries, such as Islamic nations, so it's conceivable that taking someone's eye out in a streetfight or other situation could lead to a nasty decision by, say, a Sharia court, depending on the "facts" of the case, which we all know may not fit with reality. Keep in mind some of these countries still stone women for showing skin.

So, depending on the jurisdiction, the kind of techniques you use for self defense can indeed get you in serious (bodily) trouble, even if in the heat of the moment they seem justified.

he wasn't defending himself, he was stalking her with the intent of harming her.
she didn't defend herself, she had posthumous justice.

[goodlun]

Fuck it do Judo cause at least then you can BS the jury about how all you did was use there own energy against them and its they got so badly hurt because of the ferocity of their very own attack. I think the average person would eat that shit up.

[W. Rabbit]

Fuck it do Judo cause at least then you can BS the jury about how all you did was use there own energy against them and its they got so badly hurt because of the ferocity of their very own attack. I think the average person would eat that shit up.

This is why I like the idea for Judo in self defense situations over some ungodly MA claiming to be able to burst your attackers kidneys with pressure point attacks.

It's easier to show a jury "watch this video, this is what we do in Judo, nonlethal standing and ground grappling, throws, chokes, and holds", as opposed to the opponent showing the jury a video of your "ninja training" and pointing out how your instructors say "pop their eyeballs out, pull out their tongue, step on it, rip their face off, then check to see if they are dead enough yet." (Kata Dan-te anyone?)

I will go with Judo for most self defense situations unless I truly feel I need to try to kill my attacker, which would be an ultra rare situation, in my neck of the woods. I'd rather have the PD show up with me standing over a passed out attacker than me standing over some bloody mess with missing eyeballs and claiming "IT WAS SELF DEFENSE!!!!! I SWEAR!!!"

[CrackFox]

Fuck it do Judo cause at least then you can BS the jury about how all you did was use there own energy against them and its they got so badly hurt because of the ferocity of their very own attack. I think the average person would eat that shit up.

M Tripp or Aaron Fields, or someone else on here used to tell a story about one of their guys getting involved in a domestic where they ended up single legging a guy, taking mount and then going for some kind of arm lock. They didn't get a tap, so they switched to a choke. Then the cops bust in.

Turns out the guy on the receiving end hadn't tapped because he didn't have any concept of what a tap-out was. Seems obvious now, but in the heat of the moment, the guy doing the lock didn't realise. So what the cops saw when they arrived was a guy who had just broke somebody's arm (look back at that definition of mayhem, see what it says about that) and was now choking him to death. They were not impressed, to say the least.

[goodlun]

M Tripp or Aaron Fields, or someone else on here used to tell a story about one of their guys getting involved in a domestic where they ended up single legging a guy, taking mount and then going for some kind of arm lock. They didn't get a tap, so they switched to a choke. Then the cops bust in.

Turns out the guy on the receiving end hadn't tapped because he didn't have any concept of what a tap-out was. Seems obvious now, but in the heat of the moment, the guy doing the lock didn't realise. So what the cops saw when they arrived was a guy who had just broke somebody's arm (look back at that definition of mayhem, see what it says about that) and was now choking him to death. They were not impressed, to say the least.

It should be noted breaking an arm isn't mayhem, unless you some how managed to destroy the joint to a point that it could not be rehabilitated.

[CrackFox]

It should be noted breaking an arm isn't mayhem, unless you some how managed to destroy the joint to a point that it could not be rehabilitated.

Oh really?

[It is Fake]

Go read any of our various threads about Martial Arts and the law. See what the lawyers and LEOs say about which art is the best.



























































































Hint: None.

[hungryjoe]

It should be noted breaking an arm isn't mayhem, unless you some how managed to destroy the joint to a point that it could not be rehabilitated.

Ever tried to shave or wipe your ass with a freshly broken dominant arm?

1st time is mayhem.

......disclaimer.....

Never tried to shave ass.

[W. Rabbit]

Ever tried to shave or wipe your ass with a freshly broken dominant arm?
.

Ever tried to give yourself "The Stranger" with a freshly broken non-dominant arm?

[goodlun]

http://www.shouselaw.com/mayhem.html
All "disabilities" are not necessarily synonymous with mayhem. In order for you to be convicted of mayhem for "disabling" a member of a person’s body, you must do more than slightly or temporarily disable that body part.5

Example: Defendant somehow broke the victim’s ankle during the course of raping her. The California Court of Appeal ruled that because the victim’s broken ankle took over six months to heal, it qualified as a sufficient "disability" under Penal Code 203 PC.6

[CrackFox]

http://www.shouselaw.com/mayhem.html

ExampleThe California Court of Appeal

Right so, you're agreeing with me now.

[It is Fake]

I feel a new thread, cull and title for trollshido. In the vein of Osaka's Friday night Fight tips thread.