Gracie Combatives MABS Cull: Why is IiF laughing at my "Paper Tiger" comment?

[W. Rabbit]

ghummel, go back and watch the early UFC matches say 1 through 5 when it truly was a style vs style.

Pay particular attention to grappler vs striker matches.

There is one counter example, my personal favorite, from UFC1, when Gerard Gordeau (Savate) sends Teila Tuli's (Sumo) tooth flying about 17s in.

Is Sumo considered grappling? Who knows, but I do know this: a good kick to the face is usually a show stopper.

Gerard Gordeau versus Teila Tuli

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNrxjqsvuJQ

[W. Rabbit]

Most striking TMA's didn't even work standing up like they were supposed to. It may have started out as two dudes approaching each other in their most badassed "kung-fu" stance but as soon as they engaged each other all those stances, forms and katas were abandoned

Stances, forms, and kata are not for fighting.

[twisted mind]

I believe ghummel was trying to request one of these:

[Yoj]

Stances, forms, and kata are not for fighting.

lolwut?

[Flappyhead]

I think we may be going about this all wrong. Perhaps we should ask ghummel for some instruction on exactly how we would go about winning on t3h str33ts. Judging from his posts he's likely got all kinds of advice to give.

[Permalost]

There is one counter example, my personal favorite, from UFC1, when Gerard Gordeau (Savate) sends Teila Tuli's (Sumo) tooth flying about 17s in.

Relevant to this thread: that same night, Gordeau bit and tried to eye gouge Royce Gracie on the ground during the final match, leading to Royce cranking the hell out of Gerard's elbow until the ref pulled them apart.

[W. Rabbit]

Relevant to this thread: that same night, Gordeau bit and tried to eye gouge Royce Gracie on the ground during the final match, leading to Royce cranking the hell out of Gerard's elbow until the ref pulled them apart.

pushups, but why no video?

Sorry I can't embed this (why, I don't know).

BJJ > bite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay-xhmeK-no

[goodlun]

Relevant to this thread: that same night, Gordeau bit and tried to eye gouge Royce Gracie on the ground during the final match, leading to Royce cranking the hell out of Gerard's elbow until the ref pulled them apart.

Gee I wonder which of those injuries took longer to heal the bite or the fucked up joint.

[W. Rabbit]

Gee I wonder which of those injuries took longer to heal the bite or the fucked up joint.

Answer: That was Gerard Gordeau's second to last fight.

In his last fight in Japan, he eye gouged Yuki Nakai (permamently blinding that eye...what a dick) in a Vale Tudo match in 1995, but he still lost (by submission).

T43 d34dly failed him.

[Permalost]

pushups, but why no video?

Sorry I can't embed this (why, I don't know).

BJJ > bite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay-xhmeK-no

Oops, that one was a RNC. I believe the armbar crank was a fight with Jason Delucia.

[W. Rabbit]

Oops, that one was a RNC. I believe the armbar crank was a fight with Jason Delucia.

RNC > Bite, anyway.

[RaiderFunk]

And just to put a finer point on it if you can't see the other guy's sarcasm. eye gouges, biting and the super nut grab of doom never actually work. Adrenaline is going and all of those guaranteed fight enders, don't end up ending fights. You can probably bite some dudes nob and it will not stop him from swinging or fighting. Ok...that might...especially if he blows a load...but I'm just saying.

[JudoA]

Most striking TMA's didn't even work standing up like they were supposed to. It may have started out as two dudes approaching each other in their most badassed "kung-fu" stance but as soon as they engaged each other all those stances, forms and katas were abandoned like a prom night dumpster baby and the two strikers end up clinching/dirty boxing and until their feet tangle and they fell over. MOST old timey UFC fights ended with both guys on the ground. Same went for Battlecade XF and the other early NHB venues.

If I ever have to remember a quote from Bullshido it will be this one :toothy9:

And just to put a finer point on it if you can't see the other guy's sarcasm. eye gouges, biting and the super nut grab of doom never actually work. Adrenaline is going and all of those guaranteed fight enders, don't end up ending fights. You can probably bite some dudes nob and it will not stop him from swinging or fighting. Ok...that might...especially if he blows a load...but I'm just saying.

Don't forget dreaded finger breaking too

[CrackFox]

eye gouges, biting and the super nut grab of doom never actually work. Adrenaline is going and all of those guaranteed fight enders, don't end up ending fights.

On Monday night, this noob eye-gouged me really hard in randori. It hurt like a bitch, gave me double vision, and I had to sit the rest of the round out.

The reason I had to sit the round out is because it was the second time in as many sessions the fucker's poked me in the eye. Physically I would have no problem going on, but I was ready to kill him, and needed to take a seat and calm the fuck down.

Don't forget dreaded finger breaking too

Funnily enough, when we finished up for the night, I noticed my little finger had swollen up like a sausage, I couldn't move it, and there was a load of bruising in the joint. I don't even remember hurting it.

[goodlun]

We have a purple belt that likes to try the tornado guard it often gets me in my nuts, I tend to say fuck that hurts and keep on rolling.