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Kid uses Gracie Bullyproof stuff to defend himself
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Note to little bullies, when your friend gets taken down by a Gracie Bullyproof kid in the playground rush in and start kicking him like grown up bullies do. Oh, and don't forget to kick his balls again, only do it harder next time!
It's a nice story and all but it reads like a paid marketing testimonial to me. I'm all for BJJ and kids learning self defense but 6 year olds doing take downs in playgrounds sounds ridiculous!
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Originally posted by goodlun View PostI don't find it odd at all. Than again I spend a lot time at parks and see these type of things happen young kids don't really have "friends" in the same way as older kids or adults. Also a group of kids together are not necessarily really friends as such.
The minute the "bully" was dropped, the other boys probably began mentally changing sides with this new shift of the power balance.....especially if the one kid is a dick. He likely picked on the other kids in the group and they probably only hang around him to spare themselves being picked on constantly as opposed to semi-occasionally.
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Originally posted by Prince Vlad View PostNote to little bullies, when your friend gets taken down by a Gracie Bullyproof kid in the playground rush in and start kicking him like grown up bullies do. Oh, and don't forget to kick his balls again, only do it harder next time!
It's a nice story and all but it reads like a paid marketing testimonial to me. I'm all for BJJ and kids learning self defense but 6 year olds doing take downs in playgrounds sounds ridiculous!
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Originally posted by Snake Plissken View PostKid's alliances are built and fall within seconds and really, when you are dealing with a group of boys that age, there isn't as strong a concept as "friends" and they will leave one another flat for a greener pasture in the drop of a hat.
The minute the "bully" was dropped, the other boys probably began mentally changing sides with this new shift of the power balance.....especially if the one kid is a dick. He likely picked on the other kids in the group and they probably only hang around him to spare themselves being picked on constantly as opposed to semi-occasionally.
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Three things bother me about this story:
1.) Lil Quinny's mom is a full fledged student at the dojo she mentioned specifically by name at the beginning of the article.
2.) The supposition that Quin took a position just below the Alpha after clearly pwning said Alpha.
3.) The idiocy of an anti bullying program saying its okay to go to the ground in a 3 on 1 confrontation, Gracie or no. Lil' Quinny is lucky he didn't get his head kicked in.
I believe that this probably started as a thank you email to the dojo because Quin got out of a bullying situation, and it has been 'massaged' into this. Unfortunately, it leaves a hell of a lot to be desired.
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My five year old is not allowed to have toy guns. He makes them himself out of whatever objects he can put together. I say "nice gun!" He says "yea it turns you into fire".
When he has in pre-school he was being picked on by a group of boys. My son was small for his age also. One day I got a report from school that he went full MMA on the leader of the wolf pack. He supposedly took the kid down, full mount, G&P, that left a couple of welts, and had to be pulled off. He got in trouble for "not using his words". I was proud he stood up for himself. No he does not train MMA, he has done a little aikido though.
Funny after story, we started goung over some rules for him as the year went on, like telling him no hitting. He switched to wrestleing the boys. No wrestleing, he switched to arm twisting, ect ect right down the line. Anyway, after we thought we had rules for governing all the ways he was not supposed to beat them up(ie defend himself), I go to pick him up early from school. The teacher puts all the kids in line to wash their hands, and TURNS HER BACK to go attend to something else. Sure as shit the big kid standing in line right behind my little guy immediately start pulling his hair, hitting him in the back and kicking the back of his shoes. Me boy turns around, glances at me, and then head buts the kid in the sternum so hard it makes him fall down and cry. The big kid then tattled on him saying "he hit me with his head, waaaaaaa"
The teacher got right on my boy scolding him for hurting the other boy and aked him why he did that. My boy replied "it was an accident". Good for him. I said I didnt see a thing.
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Originally posted by Feryk View PostThree things bother me about this story...
2.) The supposition that Quin took a position just below the Alpha after clearly pwning said Alpha.
I bet she sees "alpha males" as the very definition of bullies, and "just under alpha" means the kid's not a bully.
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Bullyproof sounds like a good program and it probably works fairly well. But there's no way I believe that story actually happened as written. I did have this thought, however...
I do not like fights. I do not buy gun toys for any of my four boys and I am a pacifist, but I am bone tired of hearing "boys will be boys," when my boys are bleeding and crying on the ground time after time.
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Originally posted by JudOWNED View PostBullyproof sounds like a good program and it probably works fairly well. But there's no way I believe that story actually happened as written. I did have this thought, however...
Hey dumbass! Maybe if you didn't deliberately pussify your kids with your pacifist bullshit and allowed them to playfight and roughhouse they wouldn't need a special program to avoid being bullied.
You are dead on, rough housing his part of what kids do and should not be discouraged. I know they add in all of the speeches and language and rules to bully avoidance. I think it's bullshit honestly. My daughter was bullied..I gave her 2 hour boxing lesson...knowing that girls in middle school didn't know how to box...girl pushed her...she hit the girl twice..fight was broken up...girl got a black eye...no more bully. Of course my daughter got suspended for 2 days for winning the fight.
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