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    #16
    GM Doug is the real deal, he is a first generation black belt under Gm Edmund Parker, if you search the Parker website and look at the family tree you will see his name, also he is ranked with the Tracy Kenpo system as I believe a 8th degree bb. His phone# is on his website so if you have been talking with him why havnt you called him? His health has been very bad, we almost lost him not long ago & therefore is having problems with his website, but I can assure you he is an honest man with more intell than many out there. I hope this helps you out.

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      #17
      Aloha, let me assure you that GM McLeod is the real deal. He is on the famly tree of Mr. Parker as well as the Tracy family also, if somehow you missed it then you need toThe photo you viewed of him and Mr. Parker is real as are the videos of them both together. At the Gathering Of Eagles Gm McLeod taught a cane defense seminar, I know I was with him and I am his student as well. It is good to out the fakes etc., but when people say they have done their homework on checking the backgrounds of people they need to read it all, GM. McLeod has done alot for our Martial Arts and has not asked for anything in return nor has he asked for glory or awards even though he deserves sincere recognition from the martial art community. I hope this helps out with the questions asked in this forum. Aloha.

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        #18
        Originally posted by aussie4 View Post
        Aloha, let me assure you that GM McLeod is the real deal. He is on the famly tree of Mr. Parker as well as the Tracy family also, if somehow you missed it then you need toThe photo you viewed of him and Mr. Parker is real as are the videos of them both together. At the Gathering Of Eagles Gm McLeod taught a cane defense seminar, I know I was with him and I am his student as well. It is good to out the fakes etc., but when people say they have done their homework on checking the backgrounds of people they need to read it all, GM. McLeod has done alot for our Martial Arts and has not asked for anything in return nor has he asked for glory or awards even though he deserves sincere recognition from the martial art community. I hope this helps out with the questions asked in this forum. Aloha.
        Doesn't mean much to me. I will tell you what I'll ask from one of the most direct sources I know and get back to you.

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          #19
          Originally posted by aussie4 View Post
          GM Doug is the real deal, he is a first generation black belt under Gm Edmund Parker, if you search the Parker website and look at the family tree you will see his name, also he is ranked with the Tracy Kenpo system as I believe a 8th degree bb. His phone# is on his website so if you have been talking with him why havnt you called him? His health has been very bad, we almost lost him not long ago & therefore is having problems with his website, but I can assure you he is an honest man with more intell than many out there. I hope this helps you out.
          After my investigation I can tell you that this is a lie. He is not a first generation black belt under Ed Parker. According to my source he may have trained under Ed Parker, which is doubtful, and he has heard the name, he was definitely not amongst the first generation of blackbelts.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Omega Supreme View Post
            After my investigation I can tell you that this is a lie. He is not a first generation black belt under Ed Parker. According to my source he may have trained under Ed Parker, which is doubtful, and he has heard the name, he was definitely not amongst the first generation of blackbelts.
            Why tf would you delete my entire reply, and end the thread with your bullshit assertion that Yen Ching Dao and Douglas McLeod being Ed Parker's Right-hand Student who regularly took over teaching Ed's classes is "a lie"?

            Were you upset that you actually didn't do any research, but felt too important to change your little mind?

            Or are you just all about the propaganda on this forum, and feel it's better to delete posts which contradict your misinformation campaign?

            This site feels like little more than the 4chan community got bored and wanted to talk tough somewhere else.

            Was Bullshido a common reference on 4chan, along with Sheeple?

            Who is your Web-Hosting Service?

            If you have something to say about Douglas, say it. I'm his number one student. It falls on me to accept all challenges and take on any insults. Post your little research and cite your sources for the world to see buddy, or are sources and references and things like facts and truth not really your thing, Propaganda Minister Supreme?

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              #21
              Originally posted by Tenzen View Post
              Why tf would you delete my entire reply, and end the thread with your bullshit assertion that Yen Ching Dao and Douglas McLeod being Ed Parker's Right-hand Student who regularly took over teaching Ed's classes is "a lie"?

              Were you upset that you actually didn't do any research, but felt too important to change your little mind?

              Or are you just all about the propaganda on this forum, and feel it's better to delete posts which contradict your misinformation campaign?

              This site feels like little more than the 4chan community got bored and wanted to talk tough somewhere else.

              Was Bullshido a common reference on 4chan, along with Sheeple?

              Who is your Web-Hosting Service?

              If you have something to say about Douglas, say it. I'm his number one student. It falls on me to accept all challenges and take on any insults. Post your little research and cite your sources for the world to see buddy, or are sources and references and things like facts and truth not really your thing, Propaganda Minister Supreme?
              The fact that either of you would be arguing about or caring about "kenpo" is hilarious.

              LARP-a-doodle-do...

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                #22
                This is pretty typical of the garbage Ed Parker was selling to gullible day dreamer wannabe's:

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Dr. Gonzo View Post
                  This is pretty typical of the garbage Ed Parker was selling to gullible day dreamer wannabe's:

                  You're kidding.

                  Ed Parker was one of the Legendary Pioneers of Modern Day MMA. He was one of the first American Systems of Fighting ever created. His techniques were ground-breaking, and shook the entire Martial Arts world.

                  You may as well be making fun of Bruce Lee or Chuck Norris.

                  You're looking at that from the standpoint of an ignorant arrogant millennial who thinks trolling on the internet is the new Kung Fu.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Tenzen View Post
                    You're kidding.

                    Ed Parker was one of the Legendary Pioneers of Modern Day MMA. He was one of the first American Systems of Fighting ever created. His techniques were ground-breaking, and shook the entire Martial Arts world.

                    You may as well be making fun of Bruce Lee or Chuck Norris.

                    You're looking at that from the standpoint of an ignorant arrogant millennial who thinks trolling on the internet is the new Kung Fu.
                    Ed Parker was a highly publicized slinger of Karate style snake oil nonsense in an era when the American Public had an appetite for Karate and Kung Fu cinema.

                    He was part of the Hollywood scene, like Bruce Lee, and Chuck Norris.

                    Choreographed performance art is not fighting, and knowing how to perform choreographed performance art is not knowing how to fight.

                    People who learn choreographed performance "martial arts" techniques, often know how to throw some versions of kicks and punches,

                    but against someone who is actually trained how to fight for real, and has experience fighting for real, unless they catch that opponent by surprise, they are in for a bad day in most cases.

                    So, there is big difference between Karate practice, point sparring, and Kickboxing.

                    There is a difference between doing hand drills, and actually boxing.

                    There is a difference between practicing a throw, and playing Judo.

                    And there is a big difference between what Ed Parker was doing and anything to do with people who really know how to fight and do fight.

                    But you keep LARP-A-Doodle-Doing and making believe, Slick.

                    Until someone punches you in the face for real, I am sure that you are tough as hell in your "dojo", and your mind.
                    Last edited by Dr. Gonzo; 10/06/2019 9:55am, .

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Tenzen View Post
                      You're kidding.

                      Ed Parker was one of the Legendary Pioneers of Modern Day MMA. He was one of the first American Systems of Fighting ever created. His techniques were ground-breaking, and shook the entire Martial Arts world.

                      You may as well be making fun of Bruce Lee or Chuck Norris.

                      You're looking at that from the standpoint of an ignorant arrogant millennial who thinks trolling on the internet is the new Kung Fu.
                      Ed Parker had so many revolutionary ideas ahead of his time, like how the best way to stand when being attacked is sideways, with the hands low, back straight, chin up, and feet super wide apart. Or how the best way to train is to practice a million defenses against a lunge punch where you counter with five moves while your opponent stands there. Or, how after you do a technique, you should cross your legs like an idiot to get away, throwing little foot flicks and stomps along the way. Or how karate inward upward downward and outward blocks are good ways to block incoming punches. Or how standing in a horse stance throwing repetitive blocks and chambered punches as the teacher shouts is a great use of everyone's time. Such a scientific and advanced method of fighting! Maybe some day these young punks like Murphy will understand.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Dr. Gonzo View Post

                        Choreographed performance art is not fighting, and knowing how to perform choreographed performance art is not knowing how to fight.

                        People who learn choreographed performance "martial arts" techniques, often know how to throw some versions of kicks and punches.
                        Bit of a side note but one of the kickboxing gyms I went to did a fight choreography class. Where you're taught a style of kickboxing specifically for movies. It's subtle but you're taught to telegraph, over throw and do other sorts of weird counter intuitive shit on order to sell the punch/kick/block. From what I've heard, a lot of stunt performers for movies specially in the old Chinese theatre circuit we're trained to do similar shit.

                        It's fun and it looks like fighting, it even looks kind of bad arse. However it's not fighting and learning it doesn't make you a fighter or a competent combatant.
                        "BJJ!!! Guard can't protect you from collapsing gym roof, tough guy!" - W. Rabbit

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Sovvolf View Post
                          Bit of a side note but one of the kickboxing gyms I went to did a fight choreography class. Where you're taught a style of kickboxing specifically for movies. It's subtle but you're taught to telegraph, over throw and do other sorts of weird counter intuitive shit on order to sell the punch/kick/block. From what I've heard, a lot of stunt performers for movies specially in the old Chinese theatre circuit we're trained to do similar shit.

                          It's fun and it looks like fighting, it even looks kind of bad arse. However it's not fighting and learning it doesn't make you a fighter or a competent combatant.
                          The hardest thing for a real trained fighter to do, the most difficult skill, is to be able to throw a fight without anyone, even the opponent knowing, that it was a work.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Dr. Gonzo View Post
                            Ed Parker was a highly publicized slinger of Karate style snake oil nonsense in an era when the American Public had an appetite for Karate and Kung Fu cinema.

                            He was part of the Hollywood scene, like Bruce Lee, and Chuck Norris.

                            Choreographed performance art is not fighting, and knowing how to perform choreographed performance art is not knowing how to fight.

                            People who learn choreographed performance "martial arts" techniques, often know how to throw some versions of kicks and punches,

                            but against someone who is actually trained how to fight for real, and has experience fighting for real, unless they catch that opponent by surprise, they are in for a bad day in most cases.

                            So, there is big difference between Karate practice, point sparring, and Kickboxing.

                            There is a difference between doing hand drills, and actually boxing.

                            There is a difference between practicing a throw, and playing Judo.

                            And there is a big difference between what Ed Parker was doing and anything to do with people who really know how to fight and do fight.

                            But you keep LARP-A-Doodle-Doing and making believe, Slick.

                            Until someone punches you in the face for real, I am sure that you are tough as hell in your "dojo", and your mind.
                            This is the same tired tripe your ilk have been slinging since you discovered you got your asses kicked by the UFC fighters. You cried, as you always do, and ran away with your tail between your legs, angry at the people who duped you and made you look like a fool in your first fight when you got your ass handed to you.

                            Your problem is mixing up sport fighting with Martial Arts. You'll notice in Martial Arts it's never called fighting, that denotes an ongoing struggle.

                            You get punched in the head, good on you bro, it has nothing to do with the martial arts.

                            You're essentially just making fun of all martial arts, and wanking off to the UFC fighters, themselves mere sport fighters.

                            I know your ilk gained some traction during the "We'll fight any style of martial artist" phase of the UFC, but you're kidding yourself if you think you're some sort of masters of Martial Arts.

                            You may as well take Uesugi Kenshin and put him in a ring in Spandex, punch him out, and call yourself the baddest warlord in world history.

                            It's laughable.

                            And the fact that you think Ed Parker, or Kenpo in general, is some sort of joke because it doesn't play out in the octagon is as comical as everything else in your feeble-minded posts.

                            Ed Parker's system was actually the fore-runner of most of what became Black Ops Fighting Techniques and used in Intelligence Agencies & Security Forces around the world. Nothing in Ed Parker's techniques was designed for anything other than to kill. There's no sparring you can do for that. You can pick up a knife or weapon and test your might in a dark alley in a third world country somewhere, and that's really about it.

                            Even the techniques in the video you posted, meant for beginners even, displays some of the most advanced fighting concepts in the world in Ed Parker's day, moves which were adopted by Imre Lichtenfeld, even, moves which the elite specialists have adopted and taken far beyond that today.

                            I simply don't think you're bright enough or knowledgeable enough to really realize what you were even looking at, but you are right to whine, you were cheated. Now go get punched in the face some more.
                            Last edited by Tenzen; 10/06/2019 5:24pm, .

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Permalost View Post
                              Ed Parker had so many revolutionary ideas ahead of his time, like how the best way to stand when being attacked is sideways, with the hands low, back straight, chin up, and feet super wide apart. Or how the best way to train is to practice a million defenses against a lunge punch where you counter with five moves while your opponent stands there. Or, how after you do a technique, you should cross your legs like an idiot to get away, throwing little foot flicks and stomps along the way. Or how karate inward upward downward and outward blocks are good ways to block incoming punches. Or how standing in a horse stance throwing repetitive blocks and chambered punches as the teacher shouts is a great use of everyone's time. Such a scientific and advanced method of fighting! Maybe some day these young punks like Murphy will understand.
                              They won't understand because they aren't Warriors, or Warlords, just average scared people afraid of getting beaten up.

                              You don't see Krav Maga in the UFC, because Krav Maga has developed so far beyond it's roots that it's essentially strictly Spec Ops and Government Super-Spies, Shadow Ops, Hitmen, & IC Assassins. There is nothing they do which isn't intended to kill, as directly, quickly and efficiently as possible.

                              If you're getting punched in the head, you're not trying to kill anyone.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Tenzen View Post
                                This is the same tired tripe your ilk have been slinging since you discovered you got your asses kicked by the UFC fighters. You cried, as you always do, and ran away with your tail between your legs, angry at the people who duped you and made you look like a fool in your first fight when you got your ass handed to you.

                                Your problem is mixing up sport fighting with Martial Arts. You'll notice in Martial Arts it's never called fighting, that denotes an ongoing struggle.

                                You get punched in the head, good on you bro, it has nothing to do with the martial arts.

                                You're essentially just making fun of all martial arts, and wanking off to the UFC fighters, themselves mere sport fighters.

                                I know your ilk gained some traction during the "We'll fight any style of martial artist" phase of the UFC, but you're kidding yourself if you think you're some sort of masters of Martial Arts.

                                You may as well take Uesugi Kenshin and put him in a ring in Spandex, punch him out, and call yourself the baddest warlord in world history.

                                It's laughable.

                                And the fact that you think Ed Parker, or Kenpo in general, is some sort of joke because it doesn't play out in the octagon is as comical as everything else in your feeble-minded posts.

                                Ed Parker's system was actually the fore-runner of most of what became Black Ops Fighting Techniques and used in Intelligence Agencies & Security Forces around the world. Nothing in Ed Parker's techniques was designed for anything other than to kill. There's no sparring you can do for that. You can pick up a knife or weapon and test your might in a dark alley in a third world country somewhere, and that's really about it.

                                Even the techniques in the video you posted, meant for beginners even, displays some of the most advanced fighting concepts in the world in Ed Parker's day, moves which were adopted by Imre Lichtenfeld, even, moves which the elite specialists have adopted and taken far beyond that today.

                                I simply don't think you're bright enough or knowledgeable enough to really realize what you were even looking at, but you are right to whine, you were cheated. Now go get punched in the face some more.
                                I'm just a slightly crippled, weak, middle aged man.

                                And, it's true, I have been punched in the head, quite a lot.
                                Last edited by Dr. Gonzo; 10/06/2019 5:45pm, .

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