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    1 Well rounded art vs training in various specialized arts

    Meaning that is it better to train in a martial art like shooto, or MMA (im starting to see MMA become a martial art itself, some gyms have pure MMA classes) or is it better to go train in a stand up art (like Muay thai, kickboxing, etc) then move onto a ground/grapple art (like judo, BJJ, etc)

    btw take other things into account like price, time, or efficiency

    Im sorry if this thread already exists, I searched and got nothing

    #2
    What do you want to achieve by learning martial arts?

    Without defining this it's like me asking you which tool is better, the hammer or the screwdriver.

    Also, how old are you?
    "Boxing is the art of hitting an opponent from the furthest distance away, exposing the least amount of your body while getting into position to punch with maximum leverage and not getting hit."
    Kenny Weldon

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      #3
      Originally posted by Sang View Post
      What do you want to achieve by learning martial arts?

      Without defining this it's like me asking you which tool is better, the hammer or the screwdriver.

      Also, how old are you?
      oh this isn't for me, this is more of a hypothetical question, what would be a better option for someone thinking about getting in MMA, what would be the better option for some one already in MMA and what would be a better option for someone just needing to learn self defense

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        #4
        Originally posted by jcrt View Post
        oh this isn't for me, this is more of a hypothetical question, what would be a better option for someone thinking about getting in MMA, what would be the better option for some one already in MMA and what would be a better option for someone just needing to learn self defense
        Yes, and hypothetical or not Sang's question is important. If someone is looking strictly for exercise you don't offer them MMA over a cardio class.

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          #5
          Originally posted by It is Fake View Post
          Yes, and hypothetical or not Sang's question is important. If someone is looking strictly for exercise you don't offer them MMA over a cardio class.
          This isn't about someone looking for just a way to exercise.

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            #6
            Originally posted by jcrt View Post
            This isn't about someone looking for just a way to exercise.
            Right it is a hypothetical question, with no context, with three scenarios, and a poster being vague.

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              #7
              Let me clarify, Ive heard that people training in well rounded martial arts or people training in MMA are the future but Ive heard that people training in different types of martial arts are better.

              what is the better option for the type of person thinking about getting involved in MMA, or the type of person that wants to know martial arts for self defense.

              training in MMA or shooto would be cheaper but are you getting what you paid for? Because I think having a wide type of training would make you mediocre in every area instead of making you advanced in a particular area, is that true?

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                #8
                If you don't mind, would you give some examples of what martial arts you think are well-rounded by themselves?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by jcrt View Post

                  training in MMA or shooto would be cheaper but are you getting what you paid for? Because I think having a wide type of training would make you mediocre in every area instead of making you advanced in a particular area, is that true?
                  This is an old argument and it is illogical. MMA entails three ranges. Striking, Ground, and IMO clicnh/throw range. Now, how is getting competent in three areas going to make you mediocre? I mean you do it all of the time as you grow up. You don't just learn one form of academia you learn many. Most athletes did more than one sport. Martial Arts have all of these stupid sayings and rules that make little sense. You shouldn't jump from art to art to art while QUITTING. There are multiple people taking BJJ and a Striking art at separate gyms. They take Judo and Boxing at separate gyms.

                  No, it doesn't make you mediocre unless your teacher or training is mediocre.

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                    #10
                    thank you fake, i thought that they would be mediocre because they aren't practicing every area more in depth

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                      #11
                      The better MMA gyms still have seperate classes for striking and grappling and then classes where you learn to combine the seperate arts to one style (MMA).

                      - Learning the arts seperately will give you a wider range of techniques to choose out to make your personal MMA-version that best suits you.

                      An already mixed together style was originally best suited for its creator, but you aren't that person (physical build, experience, preferred strategies).

                      - The mediocre comes from the fact that a MMAer is a generalist and not a specialist. He has to train two or three arts instead of one, yet there are only 24 hours in a day.

                      He will never outstrike a Muay Thaier, outthrow a Judoka or outgrapple a BJJer, but he will outstrike a Judoka, outthrow a BJJer and outgrapple a Muay Thaier.
                      Originally posted by Jiujitsu77
                      You know you are crazy about BJJ/Martial arts when...
                      Originally posted by Humanzee
                      ...your books on Kama Sutra and BJJ are interchangeable.
                      Originally posted by jk55299 on Keysi Fighting Method
                      It looks like this is a great fighting method if someone replaces your shampoo with superglue.
                      The real deadly:

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Zendokan View Post

                        - The mediocre comes from the fact that a MMAer is a generalist and not a specialist. He has to train two or three arts instead of one, yet there are only 24 hours in a day.

                        He will never outstrike a Muay Thaier, outthrow a Judoka or outgrapple a BJJer, but he will outstrike a Judoka, outthrow a BJJer and outgrapple a Muay Thaier.
                        To cut and dry.

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