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    BJJ Calorie Burn

    Does anyone have any accurate reliable information on the calorie burn of BJJ activities. Like let's say drilling. I would love to see that to better monitor my inputs and outputs.
    Don't rely on theory if your life is at stake.

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    I would say too many variables to reliably just estimate. Intensity of drills vary wildly in my experience and the same for rolls.

    You'd probably have to wear a durable heart rate monitor to get an accurate idea.

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      #3
      Originally posted by sweats View Post
      I would say too many variables to reliably just estimate. Intensity of drills vary wildly in my experience and the same for rolls.

      You'd probably have to wear a durable heart rate monitor to get an accurate idea.

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      That's on my to do list. At least for drills. It wouldn't survive rolling, though I'm more looking for a cal/lb/min for the general bit anyway.

      Yes intensity does vary wildly.
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        #4
        Originally posted by Michael Tzadok View Post
        Does anyone have any accurate reliable information on the calorie burn of BJJ activities. Like let's say drilling. I would love to see that to better monitor my inputs and outputs.
        It depends on your weight, the more you weigh, the more calories you burn per hour doing almost anything. The numbers I've seen for Bjj seem to correspond to swimming (full body aerobic+anaerobic exercise with mild resistance), so between 500-1000 calories per hour varying by weight and intensity.

        In one MMA Evolve article (https://evolve-mma.com/blog/the-6-hi...that-fat-away/) they ranked exercises by 150lb averages and came up with the following

        Muay Thai ~ 1,000
        Boxing slightly over 700
        Bjj slightly under 700

        So for a full hour of intensity, a 200lb person could easily break 1000/hr. 100 lb shrimp would probably have to struggle to burn more than half that in the same hour.

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          #5
          Originally posted by sweats View Post
          I would say too many variables to reliably just estimate. Intensity of drills vary wildly in my experience and the same for rolls.

          You'd probably have to wear a durable heart rate monitor to get an accurate idea.

          Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
          I looked into this a while back and generally found numbers for Bjj ranging between 500 and 1000+. Wrestling numbers I found were slightly lower. It seems the more time spent standing (as opposed to laying in guard or even stalling), the more calories get burned, so it makes some sense that Bjj might trail some other martial arts in terms of total calories burned. In the MMA Evolve article I posted, boxing and Muay Thai burned more on average because of all the increased movement and footwork. An hour of Bjj that includes mostly groundwork will probably vary in intensity, more like interval training. Going a full, nonstop hour of Bjj is definitely not in my skill set...but I'd say the max must be close to what a professional cyclist would burn while racing full speed for one hour (~1500 cal/hr for a ~200 lb person).

          The swimming comparison is interesting because I swim for conditioning, and swimming is also one of those exercises where the resistance is built in, and you can modify it based on your intensity level. A light swim for one hour will burn a lot less than an intense set of laps over an hour. I think Bjj must be similar...closer to the 500/hr range for drilling and light rolling, higher for more intense rolling, and everything scales according to your weight.
          Last edited by MrBeaj; 6/12/2018 1:38pm, .

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            #6
            Originally posted by MrBeaj View Post
            I looked into this a while back and generally found numbers for Bjj ranging between 500 and 1000+. Wrestling numbers I found were slightly lower. It seems the more time spent standing (as opposed to laying in guard or even stalling), the more calories get burned, so it makes some sense that Bjj might trail some other martial arts in terms of total calories burned. In the MMA Evolve article I posted, boxing and Muay Thai burned more on average because of all the increased movement and footwork. An hour of Bjj that includes mostly groundwork will probably vary in intensity, more like interval training. Going a full, nonstop hour of Bjj is definitely not in my skill set...but I'd say the max must be close to what a professional cyclist would burn while racing full speed for one hour (~1500 cal/hr for a ~200 lb person).

            The swimming comparison is interesting because I swim for conditioning, and swimming is also one of those exercises where the resistance is built in, and you can modify it based on your intensity level. A light swim for one hour will burn a lot less than an intense set of laps over an hour. I think Bjj must be similar...closer to the 500/hr range for drilling and light rolling, higher for more intense rolling, and everything scales according to your weight.
            I had found this, but I don't know how accurate it is:
            http://timbrucejiujitsu.blogspot.com...rn-in-bjj.html

            I know that short of a lab with oxygen inhale/exhale testing nothing is going to be 100% accurate. I'm just looking for ballpark.
            Don't rely on theory if your life is at stake.

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              #7
              I don’t think it’s that simple- the assumption is that everyone would be doing the same moves with the same efficiency- and were not.

              Two people rolling for an 8 minute match could end up with completely different caloric expenditures

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                #8
                Originally posted by Michael Tzadok View Post
                I had found this, but I don't know how accurate it is:
                http://timbrucejiujitsu.blogspot.com...rn-in-bjj.html

                I know that short of a lab with oxygen inhale/exhale testing nothing is going to be 100% accurate. I'm just looking for ballpark.
                Tim's a good guy, I used to train with him - was there when he got his BB. I would trust his numbers.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by submessenger View Post
                  Tim's a good guy, I used to train with him - was there when he got his BB. I would trust his numbers.
                  Thanks Sub(and everyone else who has chimed in). Like I said, I'm not looking for exact, as I don't really think that is possible. I'm looking for a rough estimate so that I can have a relative estimate of my output, to figure out how much of a deficit I'm in.
                  Don't rely on theory if your life is at stake.

                  "But now that you've anointed him as truthsayer, you'll be complicit with what happens when the next Jew comes here and is lambasted by an ultrasecular Rabbi" -W.Rabbit/Pship/Emily Dickinson/Earth Dragon/Self Proclaimed Editor Extraordinaire

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Michael Tzadok View Post
                    Thanks Sub(and everyone else who has chimed in). Like I said, I'm not looking for exact, as I don't really think that is possible. I'm looking for a rough estimate so that I can have a relative estimate of my output, to figure out how much of a deficit I'm in.
                    I feel your pain. My numbers were always way too high. I don't burn much doing BJJ. The one place I train out of uses a kerosene heater that sounds like a jet engine. Heats the place up and makes you sweat profusely. It'll make even an easy roll into an asskicker. I don't know that it actually does anything for calorie burn, but its great for a gut check.

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                      #11
                      A Harvard study that breaks down calorie rates for different strength building exercises in different weight groups. It doesn't seem to go by the hour, instead using "session". A half hour of pushups at 185 pounds is about 200 calories. That's a lot of pushups. If you view a session of Bjj as a combo of different things, you can probably calculate the average for yourself. Take your weight, figure out what the different components of your calorie burn are, and add it all up. I tried, and figured on an average session, I could probably pull at least 500+, if I put in a full hour, at my weight. I tend to gas out early and often, which kind of slows things down. There is a single martial arts category of Martial Arts that lists judo, karate, and kickboxing at 300-400 per half hour.

                      https://www.health.harvard.edu/diet-and-weight-loss/calories-burned-in-30-minutes-of-leisure-and-routine-activities
                      Last edited by MrBeaj; 6/17/2018 9:42pm, .

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by submessenger View Post
                        Tim's a good guy, I used to train with him - was there when he got his BB. I would trust his numbers.
                        So I finally got around to testing Tim's numbers with a heart rate monitor. Namely a Polar H7 and the matching app from polar on my phone. His numbers are pretty solid, within 25-30 calories as a margin of error on a thousand calorie target workout. I was really impressed. It is definitely only counting active time, and you do have to hit a pretty good pace.
                        Don't rely on theory if your life is at stake.

                        "But now that you've anointed him as truthsayer, you'll be complicit with what happens when the next Jew comes here and is lambasted by an ultrasecular Rabbi" -W.Rabbit/Pship/Emily Dickinson/Earth Dragon/Self Proclaimed Editor Extraordinaire

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Michael Tzadok View Post
                          Does anyone have any accurate reliable information on the calorie burn of BJJ activities. Like let's say drilling. I would love to see that to better monitor my inputs and outputs.
                          Drilling with a competitor, or Mr. Broletsflowroll?

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Devil View Post
                            Drilling with a competitor, or Mr. Broletsflowroll?
                            Good and fair question.

                            So Tim has BJJ-Light, BJJ-Intense and BJJ-Competition which I haven't really figured out what he is trying to say there... but doesn't really matter.

                            So in testing with a heart rate monitor, BJJ-Light are no resistance drills. Like if you set the gym clock for five minutes and try to see how many technically accurate arm bars you can do in five minutes. Or guard passes with your partner. Like I said, it requires you to be active, really active.

                            BJJ-intense numbers match up with resistance drills or an active roll.

                            Like I said the competition ones, I'm not sure of, because even a healthy 150lb man will hit 487 calories by drilling for 1hr straight, and it is a pace that can be maintained for full hour.
                            Don't rely on theory if your life is at stake.

                            "But now that you've anointed him as truthsayer, you'll be complicit with what happens when the next Jew comes here and is lambasted by an ultrasecular Rabbi" -W.Rabbit/Pship/Emily Dickinson/Earth Dragon/Self Proclaimed Editor Extraordinaire

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                              #15
                              To define what I mean by active here is the heart rate summary from 12 rounds I did with the wrestling dummy yesterday:


                              The drill I did was a movement chain. Side control -> Knee on Belly -> Mount ->Cross collar choke -> Arm triangle ->Scarf Hold ->North South with arm trap ->To opposite side control with reverse arm bar -> reverse side control ->Mount -> Guard -> Classic Collar choke ->butterfly sweep ->Mount ->Classic Arm bar ->Start again. I call it BJJ Kata 1. Oh and yes I dress the dummy in a gi top so that I can properly do the chokes. My current speed gets me through that entire chain between 4.5-5.5 times per five minute round interval. There is a 40 second rest between each round. Which is why 12 rounds took an hour ten minutes.

                              I'm hoping that as I continue and become more fluid, I'll be able to push the pace up to 6-7 reps per five minute round. I've been trying to squeeze in a couple of hours on the dummy like this per week. I've seen great improvements in my cardio from it, as well as my ability to make these various transitions in actual sparring.
                              Don't rely on theory if your life is at stake.

                              "But now that you've anointed him as truthsayer, you'll be complicit with what happens when the next Jew comes here and is lambasted by an ultrasecular Rabbi" -W.Rabbit/Pship/Emily Dickinson/Earth Dragon/Self Proclaimed Editor Extraordinaire

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