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    We need to grow up

    I have tried to get many people to join this forum, but they end up leaving.
    You know why? Because most of us act like asses.

    I got a teenage girl who did tkd or wanted to join it. She comes here, and people start asking her about her panties and immediately call bullshit. They don't even stop and apologize AFTER the fact that I vouch for her. I have refered alot of people to this site. I have a friend that does kung fu and competes in koushu and san shou, and he thinks this site is bullshit because of the "all knowing arrogant asshole attitude" on this site that when he found stuff on kung fu it was bashing. I'm NOT saying bullshido is anti kung fu, I know bout Omega and Asia, and what most of the staff think.

    The active and contributing members stance is totally on par. Its alot of the people on the forum that just act like retards, and in alot of cases just reply to a thread with things like "cool" and thats it and other little shit (which I am guilty of sometimes).

    I'm not claiming to contribute much, but I DO try and get people to join here, but they refuse to because of the huge amount of un needed rudeness here. I'm not talking about when someone is a ninja or a dumbass. I'm talking about the unprovoked insulting of new members.

    You (as in alot of the new members that don't do much but post things here in there thats just in conversation) say "if they are too wimpy don't let them be here/let them leave " or something like that. Well how the fuck are we supposed to reach out to guys here?

    I have refered countless people to this site, and most of them end up checking the site out then leaving. I'm not saying put a ban on swear words, but i'm saying boundries are needed.

    And asking something like "what color are your panties" to a 14 year old girl who comes here because they THINK it MIGHT be a 40 year old man posing as a girl is fucking unacceptable. You guys getting my drift? because as much as my post may seem dumb to you, or wimpy, the fact is we as a whole need to mature more, and we NEED more rules here in bullshido, and to enforce them. Because referencing to that teenage girl incident, that made me fucking sick. She only posted a little (thirteen posts or so?) then didn't come back. I try and get shitloads of people to join, but its not much of a point because next to none of them have the sense of humor we have. Even though the whole STFU newb thing is a joke, many people don't get that, and think that it IS the sherdog mentality.

    I'm stressing this as much as I can right now, because theres alot of people we could be helping, but end up pushing away because they are simply flat out assholes.

    Pussies? maybe so, but most of the people i find on say, MAP, get very offended if you even say a little swear word in a convo unneedingly, and face it, those are the kind of people we need to help, sure some of them may be arrogant and refuse to admit what works and such. But theres alot that are alot more open minded then we think (I'm not talking about the guys who cry saying "Bullshido guys are bullies!" but alot of these guys feel bullshido is like a "tough guy contest").
    I'm rambling on yeah. But I stand behind the post I'm attempting to make. Bullshido saved me from flutter kicking at tkd and skipping and dancing around, and reading ashida kim manuals thinking its real out of ignorance of the subject and all of the bullshit around. I want to help people the same. But until we can be just a little more kinder as a whole, we aren't gonna help too many.

    Hear me out.

    I'm also trying to get my friend that does kung fu that I mentioned to try and make a post here with what I'm saying.

    #2
    *Shrug* Okay. Meh.
    Rad ki was made up by adolescents. I do not know who created trad ki but it was not made by adolescents. your an ass dude, Im not being a little bitch you are, your past the level of a bitch. Your beyond Bitch! If im easting my time with ki and psi, then your wasting time to prove frauds, and all shit like that! -theoutsider

    Kick boxing is ok, but don't expect do beat a man like Rickson Gracie with that. You need a real martial art. You need Xing Yi Quan. -Emptyflower

    The splits, how ever, have a few martial uses. Doing the splits for me, can put my fists in testical strike range.

    dont ignore the Art for the Martial or else your just kick boxing

    Yes i am serious, there are kicks that can block punches. we have them in Moo duk kwan.
    I want to learn how to use them in case my arm gets broken in a fight.
    what would you have me do? if my arm gets broke, not block punches? -sempi-stone

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      #3
      Link to panty thread?

      If you could provide some examples of unwarranted flaming I might be more sympathetic. But as it stands there are soooo many idiots that come here the potentially quality posters might get caught in the crossfire.

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        #4
        Well, I think the general shit pit attitude pushes somepeople out before they even post. I don't think gentling the site with moderation is the solution, though, just a slow process of maintaining a tone.

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          #5
          the problem with bullshido and the reason i hardly post anymore can be summed up in one word- nutriders. I remember when mcdojo.com was about exposing the frauds. now its about people jumping on the "harsh welcome" bandwagon (which is only funny when certain people do it and not when some noob with 40 posts does it)

          shitheads like thaiboxerken whos thought process goes something like "MUAY THAI MUAY THAI MUAY THAI"

          the ball lickers who follow people like osiris and omega around. i can just imagine these people when Os says something to acknowledge them, masturbating furiously while screaming "fuck yeah! im recognised!"

          this was highlighted by that moronic fuck hannibal in my kickboxing thread, when he asked why I was visiting a bunch of schools when i had no intention of joining. oh bullshido, how you have strayed

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            #6
            If you could mention my name in your post I would masterbate pretty furiously too.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Ikken Hisatsu
              the problem with bullshido and the reason i hardly post anymore can be summed up in one word- nutriders. I remember when mcdojo.com was about exposing the frauds. now its about people jumping on the "harsh welcome" bandwagon (which is only funny when certain people do it and not when some noob with 40 posts does it)

              shitheads like thaiboxerken whos thought process goes something like "MUAY THAI MUAY THAI MUAY THAI"

              the ball lickers who follow people like osiris and omega around. i can just imagine these people when Os says something to acknowledge them, masturbating furiously while screaming "fuck yeah! im recognised!"

              this was highlighted by that moronic fuck hannibal in my kickboxing thread, when he asked why I was visiting a bunch of schools when i had no intention of joining. oh bullshido, how you have strayed

              QUICK, EVERYBODY OVER TO MAP!

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                #8
                I don't recall ever being insulted, except through negative reps. One was deserved - I deliberately made a troll thread. The other was unwarranted, but it didn't bother me any.

                Other than that, I don't recall any flaming done whatsoever (towards me). Just my experience with Bullshido.

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                  #9
                  You da man, Ikken...I might have to masturbate furiously too after that post. It always scares me when you post something rational.

                  They do have a point. I lurk more than post simply because much of this website reminds me of a high school football team...a MID WESTERN High School Football team. Put the genitalia away already!

                  Which is really a shame, since the purpose of this site is frickin amazing. I'm almost afraid that the true goal of this site will be buried under a pile of meaningless, spam-flavored shit and that the hard work of members like Samuel Browning and other Fraud Busters will be lost among the drivel.

                  If anything, I'd like to see some of the meaningless crap cut out from decent threads. Skimming through 124 pages of "Yu Fukin Rox" and "MMA owns you" to get to the good stuff wears on a reader. No censoring necessary...just flick the useless crap from threads like a crusty booger.

                  May you achieve
                  Satori
                  Originally posted by Exodus
                  Helio was submitted by Kimura

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                    #10
                    Oh come on...are you serious? If your friend's feelings were hurt, that's her problem, not the poster who asked her about her panties. When anybody is offended, that person makes the decision to be offended. It's entirely up to us to become offended, nobody else.

                    Look at the substance of these boards. This isn't exactly a love fest. If this were a gardening forum, then I might have some sympathy, but let's be real.

                    Personally, I'm pretty polite. I don't get off on bashing people over the internet. In fact, I'm a much bigger ass in person than I am on these boards. I believe that's only fair. But, people whose feelings get hurt over the internet need to toughen up, especially if they're martial artists. In some ways, the attitude around here keeps alot of the pansy asses away.

                    I will say though that personally, I think the panties comment was out of line. And I don't blame you for defending your friend. I'd probably do the same thing out of honor. However, your friend should learn to deal better with that sort of thing, and if she can't then, she's always free to go somewhere else, like she did.

                    See, it all works out in the end.

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                      #11
                      It's been really odd. It took me a good three months to fully get a handle on things here, get my act together and sign up.

                      On the one hand, there's a lot of quality information here - exposes, diet and training info, style and school reports, and so on. A LOT of good stuff to be found.

                      On the other, however, there's a high signal to noise ratio in places. I'm not naming names, just saying this: as Satori said, wading through BS reponses can be funny at times, but sometimes it makes trying to follow a serious thread about as easy as persuading a bull not to gore you. For what it's worth, I hold this site and most of the people within in seriously high esteem for what they do, and what they're trying to accomplish.

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                        #12
                        I think alot of frequent topics need to be made into articles, for one thing, but that is up to the members, not some authority in the sky. The mods are more like refs then anything.

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                          #13
                          Lawgod, at what point did anyone say anything about having feelings hurt?

                          If my initial trip to this board had consisted of morons asking me about my underwear in the midst of an attempt at a rational post or a discussion on Martial Arts I'd have never signed up.

                          It's not a matter of being offended, it's a matter of not wasting my time.

                          I was lucky, my entry to this board and the people I talked to the most at the begining or read and took cues from were guys like Asia and Wastel, or JKD Chick or Omega. Sure they were twits on occasion (Everyone is) But the first words out of their mouth to me were not strings or moronic insults and tactless behavior.

                          As others have said, we don't need Moderation, we need a bit of self willed quality control on our own posting.

                          PS: On the other hand, people who want change need to be involved more. It's easy for me to speak my opinion on this. And I genuinly wish people would follow it. But sitting here at a few hundred posts as an unsupporting member who hasn't hit a Throwdown yet and hasn't helped out a fraud... I don't really feel MY place is to try and control the quality. Now once I get things together, have more money to donate and more time to check out schools I'll probably become very very loud on here for the side of basic civility (Note I find a large difference between Blunt Civility and PC absurdity).

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                            #14
                            I came on this afternoon for the first time, with the intention of pointing people to a joke site that I'd set up. Harmless fun (I thought)

                            I get a threat of being "verbally raped" in the second post, which made me laugh, then the thread got hijacked with an argument from people who post on MAP.

                            A flame war quickly ensued and the point of the thread was lost.

                            My initial impression of the forum in all honesty - that it is a thriving flame forum with little to help anyone who is interested in traditional martial arts.

                            That's a shame, because there are a lot of people getting ripped off by McDojo belt factorys when with a little guidance they could be armed with the skills to find a decent school.

                            If bullshido really does exist to provide a service, then there really does have to be a massive shift in the forum culture. Because just saying "your martial art is shit MMA is great is not really meeting a need.
                            Last edited by Bil Gee; 8/15/2005 6:05pm, .

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                              #15
                              You aren't getting flamed because you're a BULLSHIDO newbie, you're getting flamed because you're a martial arts newbie saying "This flavor of bullshido I will make fun of, but this flavor I will practice" and because your first post was an extremely dry joke some people didn't take as humor - it's a testament to the need for sites like this one that your joke site didn't look all that different from real ones we have seen.

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