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    Here is an interesting thread about it:
    http://www.e-budo.com/vbulletin/show...g&pagenumber=1

    I like the commentary in this clip:
    http://www.rochesteraikido.com/media/short.mpg

    #2
    Systema clips are always good for a laugh.
    The vast Universe!
    The Way of Aiki to to become
    The light of all mankind
    Opening all the world

    --O Sensei

    :gaygay:

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      #3
      Last edited by Furtry; 3/16/2004 2:39pm, .

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        #4
        I've never felt it, but most people find clips like that laughable because a lot of it is obviously questionable. It's important to keep in mind however that at least half of how something appears on video is how the technique is being recieved. Most members here seem to assume that if the aggressor doesn't wildly attempt to plow through everything the demonstration has no merit.

        Heaven forbid they try to make intelligent (read safe) attacks: As mentioned in the linked e-budo thread, the people being "thrown" are trying to recover to a better attack position because the demonstrator has displaced to superior ground. I can only guess that their method of doing so looks overly flashy to people who can't tumble. It IS a better option than running headlong onto a concealed knife.

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          #5
          How did you ever survive?

          Your chi must be crazy strong.
          The vast Universe!
          The Way of Aiki to to become
          The light of all mankind
          Opening all the world

          --O Sensei

          :gaygay:

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            #6
            Allot of the rolling is for self-preservation. Once I get my personal tapes back from the ex-wife (she's screening them to make sure there is no amateur stuff of us on there;) ) I'll show you guys a full on fight.

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              #7
              Originally posted by garbanzo
              How did you ever survive?

              Your chi must be crazy strong.
              No chi/ki or any of that bullshit involved. But my attacks were real. After giving him a warm up I started to test him. There is clip on my site where a guy tries it for real with Mikhail. But that has been discussed here, do a search.

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                #8
                Oh. . .MY. . . GOD. . . Why do so many Bullshit practicioners have to be fatasses? "You will get great knowledge, feel amazed and inspired by a true master of fighting." Uh, yeah. More like a true master of porking massive quantities of piroshki. That was definitely the lamest and most unbelievable demonstration of useless crap I've seen in about a month. And for being on Bullshido.com regularly, that says a LOT.

                What is the absurd explanation for why the "attackers" fall to the ground without him even touching him? Are his size 40 camoflauge pants magical? Did he pass gas as they came near?

                His "psychic energy" bullshit really disappoints me. Couldn't these morons have spent a little bit more time coming up with this crap and make it seem just a tiny bit believable? I'd rather learn "fighting" from a 5'4" 300 pound NINJA in a pink gi than from this loser. And if you don't understand that comment, read my sig.
                Deluxe247 tells it like it is:

                you ninja fags just got owned in a bad way. this thread should go to the classics and mega thread forum due to the sheer size of taebo_master and gajusceaser's penis. (with which they just smacked across these ninja's faces)
                from:

                This Classic Thread - http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9653&perpage=15&pagenum ber=14

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                  #9
                  What is the absurd explanation for why the "attackers" fall to the ground without him even touching him? Are his size 40 camoflauge pants magical? Did he pass gas as they came near?
                  I already said:
                  As mentioned in the linked e-budo thread, the people being "thrown" are trying to recover to a better attack position because the demonstrator has displaced to superior ground. I can only guess that their method of doing so looks overly flashy to people who can't tumble. It IS a better option than running headlong onto a concealed knife.

                  Furty already said:
                  Allot of the rolling is for self-preservation.

                  and that e-budo thread has a very extensive discussion on the topic. A lot of the psychic technobabble stuff is pretty unbelievable, but we have no context as to what it is supposed to be in the video. It might have some significance to systema people *that the seminar and video is targeted at*, and I've never heard a systema student make anything but reasonable claims as to when and why it has value in their training.

                  His videos DO often look silly, but I think its just as pathetic to sit around making each other feel better about yourselves by coming up with new insults for things you know nothing about. There is a great deal of information that addresses your statements already.

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                    #10
                    His "psychic energy" bullshit really disappoints me. Couldn't these morons have spent a little bit more time coming up with this crap and make it seem just a tiny bit believable? I'd rather learn "fighting" from a 5'4" 300 pound NINJA in a pink gi than from this loser. And if you don't understand that comment, read my sig.
                    Last edited by Furtry; 3/16/2004 3:29pm, .

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                      #11
                      Spunky:

                      When videos are posted--on a site dedicated to fighting BS in the MA--that show people getting knocked down with no physical contact, you have to expect some mockery.
                      The vast Universe!
                      The Way of Aiki to to become
                      The light of all mankind
                      Opening all the world

                      --O Sensei

                      :gaygay:

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                        #12
                        The main guy being knocked over is a KNOWN MMA fighter, with wins in the REAL WORLD over seriuos fighters!

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by garbanzo
                          Spunky:

                          When videos are posted--on a site dedicated to fighting BS in the MA--that show people getting knocked down with no physical contact, you have to expect some mockery.
                          Thanks, Garbanzo. Hell yeah, you do. I don't buy that "trying to recover to a better position bullshit for one second. It's complete garbage. That stupid crap would get you stomped on real quick. I don't have time to read that huge and stupid e-budo thread. You want to defend this crap here, you'll have to post here.

                          And we DO have context for what is supposed to be in the joke of a video. Listen to the stupid narration on it. Most of those techniques shown on the video are complete crap. How the hell are you supposed to just "stared down" someone rushing right at you, make them stop, and THEN fell backwards? That doesn't work and I don't care what sort of stupid pseudo-scientific crap you come up with, it still won't work. They'd just keep on coming and probably head-butt you in the face on the way in.

                          I can't even begin to address the abject stupidity in the rest of those "techniques" or whatever you want to call them on that video. It saddens me that people are so stupid and gullible that they will buy into this crap.

                          If I am "missing" the context of that stupid video, please, Furty, if you were in it, give us the context.
                          Deluxe247 tells it like it is:

                          you ninja fags just got owned in a bad way. this thread should go to the classics and mega thread forum due to the sheer size of taebo_master and gajusceaser's penis. (with which they just smacked across these ninja's faces)
                          from:

                          This Classic Thread - http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9653&perpage=15&pagenum ber=14

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Furtry
                            The main guy being knocked over is a KNOWN MMA fighter, with wins in the REAL WORLD over seriuos fighters!
                            This is not convincing in the least. You can get almost anyone to do almost anything for money and for many other reasons.

                            I still don't believe your silly video is the least bit realistic.
                            Deluxe247 tells it like it is:

                            you ninja fags just got owned in a bad way. this thread should go to the classics and mega thread forum due to the sheer size of taebo_master and gajusceaser's penis. (with which they just smacked across these ninja's faces)
                            from:

                            This Classic Thread - http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9653&perpage=15&pagenum ber=14

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                              #15
                              This video is complete and utter bullshit.

                              Anyone who doesn't see that is eiher blind, a retard, or has an agenda.
                              You say what about my rice?

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