Looking for ex Jung SuWon / Tae Yun Kim students (Part 4)

[sarangbitter]

Hello All: My name is Kim. I come from Korea. Guess what. I can confirm only this once, Kyung Ae is a fraud. She trained with my master, well ex master, many years ago. He was not an old man. He was associated with her uncle. She had the rank of black belt when she went to America with her new husband. She brings shame to Korea. Now that I am old man, I don't give a flying turd. Want to clear my conscience. She is now Tae Yun. Saw her on TV here and thought, what a load of it. I cannot believe she has convinced anyone to follow her. Not bad for a girl from Kimchung. This is the same lady. Have read posts. Very sad she is running a cult but not surprising. We do that. Run cults. Convince naive Americans to buy into the who ki energy stuff. And that whole story about her upbringing is a lie. She never saw a friend blow up. She did not get it for being a girl. Her parents were just hard on her. Korean men are like that sometimes. She is very clever though. She was a very good student and took much of the art back to America and made it popular. Too bad she didn't stay that way. Still she is living a false way. Making a profit and taking money from students and making rich students live with her for their money is very savvy, but she is going to have only her past to live back on. A true master does not need a cult of followers to make oneself look good. They do not need fame or power. Something went wrong there. I am leaving now. I am clear in my conscience. Kim.

[Shadow Dancer]

Getting replacement certificates from the governing bodies wouldn't have been hard. But the problem would have been that they showed her to only be 3rd Dan and not the glorious Grandmaster. She would have had a bit of dancing to do when her students asked about that.

[Failed Student]

When I was in Milpitas, the certificates didn't exist. We really wanted them because Jim Mathers at a nearby studio was questioning kimmie's provenance but nothing was available to back up her claims to her titles. So if they have suddenly reappeared, then they are most likely bogus.

When she was in Burlington, those certificates were on the walls of the dojang office....some from Korea, where Art received his black belt. Most were written in Korean, so I don't know what they said (add snarky comment here Shadow Dancer)...but they were definitely dated pre-fire.

I now can admit that I contacted Jim Mathers way back about 1988 when the Black Belt magazine article came out about her, advising him of her questionable rank claims. I guess he followed up on my letter to him.

[Shadow Dancer]

which raises the question of how she was able to save all her certificates and those of her husband from the fire.....

When I was in Milpitas, the certificates didn't exist. We really wanted them because Jim Mathers at a nearby studio was questioning kimmie's provenance but nothing was available to back up her claims to her titles. So if they have suddenly reappeared, then they are most likely bogus.

[Failed Student]

Just as a FYI - the blogger states they are on Coumadin - for tendonitis and arthritis. If that's the "shot" they were given, find another physician or exsanguinate. Coumadin is a blood thinner......perhaps the right medication might be Cortisone, but that's just my observation.

I don't often correct myself as I am infallible, but I see there is a reason the blogger is on coumadin. mea culpa

[Failed Student]

I see that kimmy's cosmetics line - TYK Jewels - has bitten the dust. I wonder how long TYK fashions will last.
I also noticed her life story on that website has a lot of omissions and alterations to the truth. No mention of a husband, no mention of her dance studio, her dojang, etc.
The first misstatement that jumps out at me is about her company - Lighthouse Worldwide Solutions. It was not founded in 1982 as stated, but there was a Software Group founded in 1983 in Vermont, whose directors included her and some of her students and her ex husband. Go to the Vermont Secretary of State - Corporations - for verification of this.
Lighthouse Worldwide Solutions was founded in 1988 in California

[Failed Student]

Here's another question about that trailer - why was she renting it when she was married and being supported by her husband? She married in Korea and didn't come over by herself and have to pay her own bills.

[Failed Student]

Just as a FYI - the blogger states they are on Coumadin - for tendonitis and arthritis. If that's the "shot" they were given, find another physician or exsanguinate. Coumadin is a blood thinner......perhaps the right medication might be Cortisone, but that's just my observation.

[Shadow Dancer]

I'm just wondering why kimmie didn't find one of the chopsticks she used to feed her master strawberries that she fed him after walking 20 miles through the snow to buy with money she had saved for years from working in the homes of nobles who had scoffed at the prophecies of her greatness.

[Failed Student]

You echo my thoughts Bemused...I was thinking that kimmee's followers might be required to venerate the places and objects of their master's earlier life. Just as we had to carry pictures of her on our keychains (I refused to), perhaps pictures of these places might be made into holy cards for her disciples to meditate on.

[bemused]

I could go back and take a picture of the hospital I was born in, the houses I lived in as a child, the room where I first started playing the piano (the actual piano is long gone), the dorm rooms I lived in while in college, the first tech company that hired me as a writer, the room in which I met my husband, etc. Almost any location has meaning to someone. So what? Ms. Sommers is treating these scenes from Kimmie's life, whether true or not, like holy sites in Jerusalem.

[Failed Student]

This journey back to Vermont by TYK to visit her so called humble beginnings....
The trailer looks in remarkably good condition after forty some odd years as does the bench.
The story told in this article differs from other versions I have heard from kimmee and others.....

She never scrubbed toilets nor floors/ She worked as a car salesperson in Burlington but was harassed by the owner's son... but she also sold more cars than anyone else in the agency/she never mentioned living in a trailer nor sitting on a bench in any other version of her story/her husband at the time owned a cleaning business which burned down along with the dojang in the building....which raises the question of how she was able to save all her certificates and those of her husband from the fire.....

[Failed Student]

Would the person who put this blurb together please use spellcheck? It didn't take me long to find a few errors, which of course, detracts from the credibility of this article

[Failed Student]

Furthermore - are we to believe that that is the very bench that GGMTYK plunked her tushy on while waiting for an audience?

[Failed Student]

Here's an interesting article - www.specialjungsuwonstudent.wordpress.com.

My first comment, with more to follow, is that kimmee never sat on a bench for a month waiting to get permission to teach martial arts. This BS story is straight out of the Kung Fu series of thirty years ago, when David Carradine, playing Caine, sought to be a student of the Shaolin monastery.