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    The JSW webmaster must be preoccupied with some other task, or series of tasks. For what they're trying to accomplish, COL is chronically understaffed.

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      They are probably too busy looking for another honor to buy for her to flatter her vanity.

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        I was talking the other day with someone about how Kimmie broke up families and managed to keep her minions from having more children despite allowing a few very controlled relationships to exist. This prompted me to look at the misunderstanding CA and I had over whether to have children with a new perspective.

        Maybe Kimmie knew perfectly well that I wanted to discuss with CA whether to have children and if so when. Maybe she knew perfectly well that I wasn't wanting kids right away. If she did know these things, there are possible reasons why she decided to tell CA something different anyway (in other words, to lie).

        First of all, she didn't want us having kids, period. To even consider it was to violate her hidden agenda.

        Second, making such life-direction decisions was her prerogative as our "Master." I was usurping her authority by initiating the discussion, even if I included her in it via my journal.

        Third, she didn't like her followers being closer to each other than each was to her. To make a joint decision on something so intimate might have brought us closer together even if we decided not to have kids.

        She probably was compelled to put a stop to the discussion. So how best to do it? She didn't want to reveal that she didn't want anyone in COL having more children ever, so she couldn't just tell us no. She didn't want to validate my point of view because of the second and third points. Telling CA that I wanted a baby right away scared CA so much that it ended the discussion. She didn't have to reveal her agenda, nor did she have to give us authority over our own lives or a chance to get too close. It worked perfectly.

        I'm still too naive. That anyone, even someone as manipulative as Kimmie, would outright lie, is usually the last thing to occur to me.

        That CA believed her and not me showed that he was being a good COLie. It also showed that our so-called relationship was a bad joke.

        For those who didn't read my previous posts, I was prepared to ask that we not have kids due to a health concern I have, and in the end I made precisely that decision alone. I only brought it up in case he really wanted to have kids badly, in which case I would have considered it to make him happy.

        The final irony is that Chica told me CA is married now and trying to have kids. Now that he's out from under Kimmie, he can do that, and I wish him and his family well.

        In my marriage, such convoluted misunderstandings simply don't happen. We can talk to each other about anything. And we don't have a third party telling us what to do or think.

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          CA got so scared that he avoided me. This prompted me to break up with him, via email because it was the only way I could deliver any communication. Not long after that, for reasons having nothing to do with CA, I left COL but remained a regular martial arts student. Then Kimmie started trying to get me back in a relationship with CA while refusing to consider my demands that he change, which I found absurd.

          I've gone through all that before in previous posts. What I still don't understand is why, and the possibility that Kimmie outright lied to CA about my intentions makes her attempt to reconcile us all the more perplexing--and galling.

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            She just teased you with a relationship, She can't have anyone that cares for someone more than herl Another reason there are no children

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              Whaddya know - they finally got a new student of the week on their website.

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                Originally posted by Failed Student View Post
                Whaddya know - they finally got a new student of the week on their website.
                See, they read BBS and you made them aware of how behind they were. Awards there are bad. That just means she is going to ask more of you. Or guilt you into giving her more.

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                  Still trying to break into my Bullshido password, eh?

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                    HOw do you know someone is tring to break into your account?

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                      I have my ways .....

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                        It's been quiet here. I hope that no news is good news.

                        Today my hubby and I have been married ten years! You-know-who likes to predict dire futures for those who leave. In my case, she "worried" that I would encounter the same sort of dating heartbreak after I left that I experienced before I joined. Instead, I'm with the best friend I ever had and the most romantic man I've ever known. Living well is the best revenge.

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                          Originally posted by bemused View Post
                          It's been quiet here. I hope that no news is good news.

                          Today my hubby and I have been married ten years! You-know-who likes to predict dire futures for those who leave. In my case, she "worried" that I would encounter the same sort of dating heartbreak after I left that I experienced before I joined. Instead, I'm with the best friend I ever had and the most romantic man I've ever known. Living well is the best revenge.
                          Happy Anniversary Bemused..............

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                            Congratulataions Bemused. I am happy that matters turned out well for you and that you found happiness and success in your field since leaving the house of horrors. Obviously you ignored the dire warnings about being influenced by "negative energy". The real world exists beyond the small confines of COL, and is there to be discovered and enjoyed.
                            Live long and prosper.....

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                              Having dealt with manipulants other than Kim in my life, I would move to say Steve Jobs was a run of the mill manipulant. He did not pose the threat to people that Kim does.

                              Originally posted by Failed Student View Post
                              If I were a psychoanalyst, I would call Jobs a passive-agressive type. There is repressed anger toward his biological father which was never resolved. Perhaps that is why he was so driven to succeed. He had his faults, but who doesn't?

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                                Originally posted by bemused View Post
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                                Today my hubby and I have been married ten years! ...
                                Congrats! Almost 10 for us. Next May!

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