Looking for ex Jung SuWon / Tae Yun Kim students (Part 4)

[ggddcc]

Wow. It took me a month to read this whole thing from thread 1, page 1. Amazing. Wish I could see some of "Chica's" posts that were gone WAY before I started reading. I only got to see what was quoted in other posts.

As crazy as this whole situation is, I will say I was impressed by one of the JSW martial artists, who I think is SAK? She's so small, made the breaks look really impressive.

Good luck and be well to everyone- both on the inside and the outside.

For the record- I'm not a member of the "cult", an "exe," nor do I know who anyone is in here. Just a Bullshido member. I'm paranoid now just from reading. I think I'll go change all my passwords. Also, my profile views before I post this is 252 in the past almost 4 years. Let's see if that goes up now :)

[Failed Student]

ggddcc...no need to be paranoid if you never have interacted with these people.
As far as profile views, I'm over 1200....

[Kathy Kim]

WOW FS they are all over you, aren't they?I only have 393...probably because they have me bugged again!!!!!! Noting that I have to hid. But boy if my computer gets found to have that bug, someone may be in trouble for looking at really borish stuff, I will get my IT friend to check it out,

Whatg do you think they get out of checking the profile so many times? It doesn't say anything does it?

[bemused]

Wow. It took me a month to read this whole thing from thread 1, page 1. Amazing. Wish I could see some of "Chica's" posts that were gone WAY before I started reading. I only got to see what was quoted in other posts.

As crazy as this whole situation is, I will say I was impressed by one of the JSW martial artists, who I think is SAK? She's so small, made the breaks look really impressive.

Good luck and be well to everyone- both on the inside and the outside.

For the record- I'm not a member of the "cult", an "exe," nor do I know who anyone is in here. Just a Bullshido member. I'm paranoid now just from reading. I think I'll go change all my passwords. Also, my profile views before I post this is 252 in the past almost 4 years. Let's see if that goes up now :)

Hi Ggddcc, and welcome. Chica asked for her posts to be hidden in an attempt to improve her relationship with her mom, who is still in the cult. This didn't work too well, but Chica has good relationships with her dad and brother and is doing well in life. I miss her sassy and poignant posts too.

Despite the craziness and the skittle belts, it's a decent martial arts school. Kimmie knows how to recruit talented people who can make up for her shortcomings. It's too bad she doesn't appreciate them, even though she says she does.

[Failed Student]

Hi Ggddcc, and welcome. Chica asked for her posts to be hidden in an attempt to improve her relationship with her mom, who is still in the cult. This didn't work too well, but Chica has good relationships with her dad and brother and is doing well in life. I miss her sassy and poignant posts too..

I find it tragic that Chica's mom cannot be a part of her daughter's life, but prefers to be a slave to the constant demands of the cult and its leader. From what I have read in some of these posts, she has been treated poorly for all that devotion. Ultimately, blood is thicker than water. I hope mom will come to that realization before it is too late.

[bemused]

I got the impression that Chica's mom lacked self-esteem and was bored with life before meeting Kimmie. The way she described herself, she sounded anxious and depressed. From Kimmie, she has gained a sense of purpose and accomplishment. She piggybacks on Kimmie's confidence. And for better or worse, Kimmie's world is exciting. She may find it hard to imagine a fulfilling life without Kimmie, because she didn't feel she had that before.

She had a husband who loved her, despite incompatibilities. She had two beautiful children. She had intelligence and a college degree. But depression and anxiety can color any life darker than it really is.

Chica could show her mom how to live fully in the outside world. She's spirited and funny and talented and travels the world when she can. Chica's mom should be proud.

[bemused]

I think Kimmie enjoys playing people. I think she gets a thrill over how far she can push people with abuse and still pull them back with token affection. I think it tickles her that people can love her willingly despite being mistreated. Sure, she has a sadistic streak. Sure, she wants to be admired, feared, pitied, loved, worshipped. But more than anything else, she wants control.

[Kathy Kim]

tyk is on the downside of life....so maybe Chica will have her mom back to share her life with her. Chica is a very strong, very smart and a beautiful young lady. tyk is almost 66 yealrs old, when she is gone I am sure everyone there will go their own way. shs is just concerned about himself. He will be number uno, and just look out after himself. If es has any big health issues and no more a help to tyk, I'm sure they won't support her any more. If you can't provide or do tyk's deeds, you are tossed to the curb.

[clarehoare]

I've noticed that the people who post on this thread don't post anywhere else on Bullshido even though the posters have been around for years, and it got me wondering if these cultish martial arts groups attract people who like small, secluded groups for whatever reason. An insular nature allows people like TYK to operate a martial arts school that's batshit insane but also off the radar of the larger martial arts community, that talks to each other across schools and styles. I always kinda figured that these pockets existed because of a charismatic leader that kept people from talking, but I'm wondering if it has to do with the type of personality of the people that stick around too. You guys have been here for years but only talk amongst yourselves about some crazy bitch from back in the day. Of course, its also possible that the whole experience soured you guys on the martial arts entirely so you're not really interested in them anymore.

I hope I don't sound disrespectful, but this thread is kind of a weird anomaly on Bullshido and I'm trying to figure it out.

This was my fault... I put a bunch of threads around the net in 2003-2005, with some other peoples help as well, in order to "get the word out"... This was the one that really caught her attention... so it stuck, and i think the emaining users of the group just use it as a way to communicate with other exes now...

But yes youre probably right. I posted ona few other, but for the most part the members of this thread, are exactly that.

[clarehoare]

Thank you for the explanation, false kittyki....and thank you mom for requiring your son to clarify this confusion.
Real kittyki, I am sure you will not be deleted.
Now back to our program...

this is hilarious...

Adam, you have quite a stage presence.

[Kathy Kim]

Hi there Clarehore, yes I remembered when you first answered me when I wrote the I was an ex col member. Seems like a lifetime ago
You started it all good job

[Failed Student]

I have been looking over the posts of the past few days, as I have wanted to respond, especially to Bemused, who apparently has studied the interaction between victim and victimizer in depth.
My mind keeps visualizing a structure built with imperfect pieces...like wood that has flaws, but together with other flawed pieces, they hold the structure together. This is my analogy of TYK's world. She has cobbled together her world from followers with "flaws" - those lacking self confidence for the most part, but others looking for meaning in their lives or a purpose to fulfill. Everything holds together and looks good from the outside view, but over time, a bit of light penetrates the insulated structure and the darkness falls away. This is what I believe the posts of the exes are doing - bringing light where there is darkness. This thread is anaethema to TYK, and even though she forbids her followers to read it, they do find ways of doing so.
As for Kimmie having self-confidence, I doubt it. What she exhibits is bravado. She has made a fool of herself in Silicon Valley, as evidenced by those who have posted about her running around with that flute at technology fairs and being unable to answer simple questions about her manufacturing business.

[bemused]

This was my fault... I put a bunch of threads around the net in 2003-2005, with some other peoples help as well, in order to "get the word out"... This was the one that really caught her attention... so it stuck, and i think the emaining users of the group just use it as a way to communicate with other exes now...

But yes youre probably right. I posted ona few other, but for the most part the members of this thread, are exactly that.

Although I have only posted in Bullshido threads related to Tae Yun Kim, I have a lot more going on in my life. I released my second CD earlier this year. I'm hosting two concert series, one for fun and another to benefit the domestic violence program of the local YWCA. I'm performing all over the South Bay and sometimes as far away as Philly. My hubby just released his second book and I'm helping him promote it. My hubby and I are also active members of an Egyptology group and a group that works to support the preservation of and collect information about old movie palaces. I have a day job and a social life too. My life is anything but insular.

I've been doing advocacy work on the issues of cults and domestic violence. I'll be speaking to a sociology class on cults in the near future. I still post in this thread so I can be available to people like Permalost who have questions.

[bemused]

As for Kimmie having self-confidence, I doubt it. What she exhibits is bravado.

What I meant was that Chica's mom perceives Kimmie to have self-confidence and emulates her based on that perception. Dominance is not the same thing as self-confidence, but many people confuse the two.

[Kathy Kim]

Flawed people? Everyone has flaws. Some more than others......What I believe that tyk looked for in people were people that had something she thought she needed and she could use, to help build her "world" There is no knocking down of someone because they became, one of her col. It takes a lot of strenght to leave there. I'm just happy that more have left than have stayed, and have gone on to help others in their own ways. Really help people, not like her way of thinking, which is really to help her.