Looking for ex Jung SuWon / Tae Yun Kim students (Part 4)

[Failed Student]

I might add to that SHS virtually demanded that I help pay for their food, even though I did not live with them nor eat with them.

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o stultitiam falsorum fides

[bemused]

SHS is a tightwad and TYK a reckless shopping addict. They deserve each other.

[Kathy Kim]

So True FS. I could see him cringe anytime she spent money. In fact sometimes when her and I went together, he would ask me to help her not spend too much. As if anyone could stop her from spending. As far as kitty-ki talking about the 20 dollar dinners. It was just easy math, and the left over money would always pay for tyk's meal (which you should be glad to pay for) the rest went to pay for the senior instructor's meals and then the rest went to scott

[Failed Student]

I went to the Santa Clara Convention Center website -
I notice that Black Belt testing hoopla event isn't on the schedule. So wassup with that?

The JSW website hasn't been updated in quite a while - that student of the week may turn out to be student of the year.

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forte tempus praeteritum magnitudo eius

[bemused]

It's a slow day, so I thought I'd compare Kimmie to a famous checklist for psychopathy. Disclaimer: I'm not a trained professional and this is just my opinion. The checklist involves rating each trait from 0 to 2. The minimum score is 0 and the maximum is 40. A score over 30 means a person is a psychopath.

• Glibness/superficial charm - She is quite charming to bigwigs, audiences, and students she's trying to recruit.
  
• Grandiose sense of self-worth - She was once scornful of a student who compared her to Gandhi, thinking herself superior to him.
• Pathological lying - She has lied to or in front of just about every ex-student who has posted here.
• Cunning/manipulative - She engineers situations to her benefit, especially within COL, telling one student what to say to another. She also cries and begs for pity when someone catches her at one of her games.
• Lack of remorse or guilt - It's always about what someone did to her, not what she did to them.
  
• Shallow affect (genuine emotion is short-lived and egocentric) - Shadow had a great example of this one when he saw her go from rage to tears within seconds depending on who she was talking to on the phone.
• Callous/lack of empathy - She's really good at faking empathy with new students or those thinking of leaving, but usually when students suffer, she tells them to shape up or ship out.
• Failure to accept responsibility for own actions - It's always someone else's fault. Sometimes she tearfully expresses regrets, but this is the cue for her minions to reassure her she did nothing wrong. If they don't, there's hell to pay.
• Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom - She seems to thrive on fun, conflict, and most of all attention.
• Parasitic lifestyle - She lives off the labor of those in COL and Lighthouse, doing very little real work. Lighthouse is a tech company but she can't even use a computer.
• Poor behavioral control - She seems to have this one in a variety of symptoms, from tantrums to unpaid bills.
• Lack of realistic long-term goals - Her goals are grandiose and vague, like "being famous" or "being rich," and she leaves the details to her minions.
• Impulsivity - She seems to have this one in a variety of symptoms,from tantrums to shopping carts full of cheap purses.
• Irresponsibility - It's her minions who clean up after her tantrums, unpaid bills, and shopping sprees.
• Juvenile delinquency - Can't evaluate this one, I didn't know her as a juvenile.
• Early behavior problems - Ditto.
• Revocation of conditional release - Not applicable, I don't think she has ever been in jail.
• Promiscuous sexual behavior - Allegedly she was once a prostitute.
• Many short-term marital relationships - No on this one, just one marriage of about 20 years.
• Criminal versatility - She has been versatile in forms of fraud, abuse, and even violence.

I'd rate her a 2 on 16 of the 20 traits, yielding a score of 32.

[Failed Student]

Bemused, I was recently thinking about Kimmie and how charming she was when I first met her.....then when she ensnared me along with others, she changed...started making demands..of time, money, and unquestioning loyalty. And what an actress - she could turn on the tears like a faucet. That's the short version of my experience with her, but I can identify with every item on your checklist.

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quae cunnum

[Failed Student]

Bemused - I was listening to National Public Radio this afternoon, and they were discussing the PCLR test - which is a means of determing whether a person is a psychopath and whether they can be released from jail and back into society. The checklist you enumerated seems to parallel this. This is used a lot in the California penal system......

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fortasse est in carcere

[Kathy Kim]

In life, we are to look for the good in a person. She has or has had good moments, but the evil just took over, The experience has, in fact, made us stronger. Even if we now have mistrust more so than before. You can never get those years back, you can just live the ones that you have now, to the fullest.

[clarehoare]

Oooh...and another thing, please correct me on this. Who was it who TYK named JO after? That's all the other post was about. Besides, Clare, TYK knowns JDMS ....

Correct i dont come on here unless im brought up... Please stop running your mouth.

[kittyki]

How long has this thread gone on? Six years? Who started it? And nobody is using their mouth to type.

[kittyki]

I was just invited to that black belt testing. I refused. They would love to get an earful out of me there right now. Wouldn't it be fascinating though? Everyone still in ranting like banshees, kissing TYK's feet, and the like. But no, I will not be going. I'm sure there would be a happy lawayer or two there, just waiting for some elaborate but futile interrogation. I will not give them any chance. Also they are charging to even attend the testing! Holy cow. They must be desperate. Maybe they don't have enough students to test the testing students. The cast includes a former yong sa student, probably one of the last ones, who is an adult now.

[Failed Student]

Kittyki - Apparently advance ticket sales aren't going well, as they have extended the discount purchase deadline from May 31 to June 22. Probably you are being invited to fill a seat, that's all. Then again, as an ex JSW black belt, you might be called upon to break a board or cement block, who knows? She likes calling upon unsuspecting audience members to show what "chi" is all about.

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panem et circenses

[Failed Student]

I just checked the Santa Clara Convention Center events schedule, and TYK's demo/testing is not on there. I think if it is to happen, it may be contingent on advance sales revenue being sufficient to give them a deposit, and so far the results of their advertising haven't produced much. (Just some rational speculation on my part).

Perhaps all former students and their friends will be invited to attend so it will look like a big success, but either the invitees will have to pay their own way or the voucher givers (students) will have to ante up. There is probably a big push going on within JSW to get students to get those vouchers out there, and probably some kind of a prize for the person that gives out the most vouchers...woe betide the laggard that gives out the fewest.

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quaero nunc verba deficere

[kittyki]

GM MBF offered to one former student the same deal as he likely did to others, a free month training and entry in a raffle to win a free IPod or ITouch.

Hello (name withheld as she isn't on here), did you hear about July 9th at the Santa Clara Convention Center! Jung SuWon Black Belt Testing and Super Master's Exhibition! You are invited. Please bring friends. As a student you get 1 free ticket. There is a prize contest also to win iPad2, iTouch, $500 Cash, Trip to Hawaii. See www.jsw.com for details. He can do, She can do, Why not me!

[kittyki]

Oh and said student would have to sign up again, which would likely incur a costly membership in their coveted organization, a new black belt, and the like. Needless to say, since this person is not a student anymore and not on BS, I will not go into that.