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  • Failed Student
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    Whaddya know - they finally got a new student of the week on their website.

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  • Kathy Kim
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    She just teased you with a relationship, She can't have anyone that cares for someone more than herl Another reason there are no children

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  • bemused
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    CA got so scared that he avoided me. This prompted me to break up with him, via email because it was the only way I could deliver any communication. Not long after that, for reasons having nothing to do with CA, I left COL but remained a regular martial arts student. Then Kimmie started trying to get me back in a relationship with CA while refusing to consider my demands that he change, which I found absurd.

    I've gone through all that before in previous posts. What I still don't understand is why, and the possibility that Kimmie outright lied to CA about my intentions makes her attempt to reconcile us all the more perplexing--and galling.

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  • bemused
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    I was talking the other day with someone about how Kimmie broke up families and managed to keep her minions from having more children despite allowing a few very controlled relationships to exist. This prompted me to look at the misunderstanding CA and I had over whether to have children with a new perspective.

    Maybe Kimmie knew perfectly well that I wanted to discuss with CA whether to have children and if so when. Maybe she knew perfectly well that I wasn't wanting kids right away. If she did know these things, there are possible reasons why she decided to tell CA something different anyway (in other words, to lie).

    First of all, she didn't want us having kids, period. To even consider it was to violate her hidden agenda.

    Second, making such life-direction decisions was her prerogative as our "Master." I was usurping her authority by initiating the discussion, even if I included her in it via my journal.

    Third, she didn't like her followers being closer to each other than each was to her. To make a joint decision on something so intimate might have brought us closer together even if we decided not to have kids.

    She probably was compelled to put a stop to the discussion. So how best to do it? She didn't want to reveal that she didn't want anyone in COL having more children ever, so she couldn't just tell us no. She didn't want to validate my point of view because of the second and third points. Telling CA that I wanted a baby right away scared CA so much that it ended the discussion. She didn't have to reveal her agenda, nor did she have to give us authority over our own lives or a chance to get too close. It worked perfectly.

    I'm still too naive. That anyone, even someone as manipulative as Kimmie, would outright lie, is usually the last thing to occur to me.

    That CA believed her and not me showed that he was being a good COLie. It also showed that our so-called relationship was a bad joke.

    For those who didn't read my previous posts, I was prepared to ask that we not have kids due to a health concern I have, and in the end I made precisely that decision alone. I only brought it up in case he really wanted to have kids badly, in which case I would have considered it to make him happy.

    The final irony is that Chica told me CA is married now and trying to have kids. Now that he's out from under Kimmie, he can do that, and I wish him and his family well.

    In my marriage, such convoluted misunderstandings simply don't happen. We can talk to each other about anything. And we don't have a third party telling us what to do or think.

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  • Shadow Dancer
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    They are probably too busy looking for another honor to buy for her to flatter her vanity.

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  • bemused
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    The JSW webmaster must be preoccupied with some other task, or series of tasks. For what they're trying to accomplish, COL is chronically understaffed.

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  • Failed Student
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    I am wondering where those "new pictures coming soon" are on the JSW website. The black belt testing was July 9..it is now October 30....how long does it take to edit (or perhaps photoshop) images and videos? The student of the week hasn't been updated in well over a month either...wassup?

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  • Failed Student
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    If anyone died while under TYK's thumb, it would be because that person had "negative enagee". TYK of course, is never to blame

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  • bemused
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    Cult leaders are basically all the same, narcissistic. One cult expert says they're all graduates of the "Cookie Cutter Messiah School." Applying the term "self-help" to what they teach is ironic because they all want their followers to be dependent on them and therefore to keep contributing labor, money, and admiration.

    If anyone dies in TYK's care, I think it will probably be caused by falling asleep at the wheel due to exhaustion. Much less likely are suicide or dying as a result of a hidden injury after being beaten, but I wouldn't rule out those possibilities entirely.

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  • Kathy Kim
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    I just watched the dateline show on cult leader, self help guru, James Arthur Ray, where 3 people died in the sweat lodge, in 2009. It is so scary, it sounds so much like tyk, I had to come back and post this because of how much it reminded me of how she treats people. The whole story was sad. True story

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  • bemused
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    Kimmie has been known to fire instantly from COL (she calls it dismissal), but not really. That's your cue to grovel and accept any punishment, no matter how crazy, to receive Kimmie's forgiveness, which she gives only until she has some other reason to use your transgression against you.

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  • Failed Student
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    I was focused on Jobs in my post Bemused, but I agree with your evaluation of Kimmie.
    At least with Jobs, if you rubbed him the wrong way or didn't meet his expectations, you were fired instantly. With Kimmie, you get harassed and intimidated.

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  • bemused
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    The point of my last sentence was that Steve Jobs may have been a jerk, but he produced high-quality, innovative products that changed the world. He also paid his employees well.

    Kimmie would like to believe she is changing the world, but she's just rehashing New Age BS and going nowhere. And she's paying her employees poorly.

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  • Failed Student
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    If I were a psychoanalyst, I would call Jobs a passive-agressive type. There is repressed anger toward his biological father which was never resolved. Perhaps that is why he was so driven to succeed. He had his faults, but who doesn't?

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  • bemused
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    For a balanced view of Steve Jobs, check this out: http://gawker.com/5847344/

    Quoting: "Before he was deposed from Apple the first time around, Jobs already had a reputation internally for acting like a tyrant. Jobs regularly belittled people, swore at them, and pressured them until they reached their breaking point. In the pursuit of greatness he cast aside politeness and empathy. His verbal abuse never stopped."

    Sounds like someone else we know. Only he really did change the world.

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