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  • Lebell
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    Originally posted by Teh El Macho View Post
    ..........If you were a small, non-aggressive male, what would you do, what would you suggest to do when confronted with a larger, more aggressive male, possibly a sociopath, that is not just interested in establishing a hierarchy, but who is going the distance in pursuing you, no matter where you go, no matter what you do to diffuse the situation (short of going to your knees and fellate him) ...

    Goddamnit!!! at 6 feet 5 im missing out on loads of blowjobs!!!

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  • Teh El Macho
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    Originally posted by kungfu2u View Post
    Do you really need "evidence" to figure out that self-defense is about controlling yourself, not others?
    Have you ever been confronted by a motherfucker that is bigger than you, with a knife, willing to cut you up open to get your wallet, and running away is really not an option? I have. What type of self-control do you think I used there?

    In fact, let me make the question more generic:

    What would you suggest about such a scenario? What kind of self-control would you suggest to establish a efficient self-defense response?

    If you were a small, non-aggressive male, what would you do, what would you suggest to do when confronted with a larger, more aggressive male, possibly a sociopath, that is not just interested in establishing a hierarchy, but who is going the distance in pursuing you, no matter where you go, no matter what you do to diffuse the situation (short of going to your knees and fellate him) to physically assault you, to physically touch you and whatever the fuck he wants to do against your will? What would you do when confronted with a stronger, larger sociopath that decided to physically and verbally assault you long waaaay in advance, that he has decided the outcome regardless of what you will say or do?

    What sort of self-control would you use? How would you suggest that controlling yourself and not this type of attacker will be the most appropriate course of action in defending my physical integrity and well being?

    * If you think this is a very extreme, unlikely scenario, you are not from this planet.
    Last edited by Teh El Macho; 3/13/2009 12:01pm, .

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  • Kid Miracleman
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    Originally posted by MrBadGuy View Post
    You were a bully, weren't you.
    Strangely enough I wasn't, nor was I a victim of bullying. When I was in high school, nobody bothered me much about anything, and I didn't bother them. I was just another 17-year-old Willy Loman: liked, but not "well-liked." Just another face in the crowd.

    ...

    Well, now I'm depressed. I'm gonna go wedgie some pencil-necks up in the finance department, see if that cheers me up.

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  • GoldenJonas
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    This......looks......AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Thanks Zap.

    Scripted or not, we all know douchebags like those in the trailer. The $10k offer, in my opinion, seems to add some legitimacy to the whole thing because absent the cash most of these punks (assuming they are real "bullies") would not step up.

    Although, it does nothing to save the kids once the Mayhem Hummer leaves town and the kid has to face the bully that just got KTFO'ed by a pro-fighter on national TV and now has the added fantasy credential of "hey guyz I ultimate fighter so fear mE more!!!!.........and give me that $10k that you just got for me to get my ass kicked by a pro."

    Still, from a spectator perspective it will be VERY entertaining.

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  • MrBadGuy
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    Originally posted by Kid Miracleman View Post
    Now this is just plain silly. Are you suggesting that when some drunken frat-boy thug in an off-campus pub throws a meaty fist in my general direction, the real enemy in this situation isn't said frat-boy, but myself?

    ---------- Post added at 11:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:16 PM ----------

    On another note, what is UP with all the revenge-fantasy-driven ex-bully victims coming out of the woodwork and getting off on the very premise of this show?

    Spoiler:
    "Oh Jesus, oh fuck yeah this show is gonna be fuckin' awesome! This is gonna be hella tight. Yeah, yeah, that's right Mayhem, you show that bully! That's right, you show that goddamn bully! Punish him... punish the fuck out of that bully. Oh yeah, retribution... uggh, uhhhhh, oh yes, oh yes... yeah, it feels so good to finally see these bullies get what's coming to them! Feels so fuckin' good! That's it Mayhem, spray their goddamn faces with hot liquid justice!! Awwwwwwww fuuuuuuuuuuck yeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhh!"

    You were a bully, weren't you.

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  • Hooded Justice
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    Originally posted by kungfu2u View Post
    Do you really need "evidence" to figure out that self-defense is about controlling yourself, not others?
    Ok. I have no more patience for your personal brand of stupidity. The Limbaugh approach of repetition = truth doesn't fly. Feel free to take a look through those links and when you come upon the part that says that martial arts is specifically meant to teach morals values and ethics, which is absolutely retarded in context of why they were developed, feel free to call 911 because you're hallucinating.


    http://www.yourdictionary.com/self-defense

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dicti...self%20defense

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/self%20defense

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_defense

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_arts

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/martial%20art

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dicti...martial%20arts

    http://www.yourdictionary.com/martial-art

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  • Kid Miracleman
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    Originally posted by kungfu2u View Post
    Do you really need "evidence" to figure out that self-defense is about controlling yourself, not others?
    Now this is just plain silly. Are you suggesting that when some drunken frat-boy thug in an off-campus pub throws a meaty fist in my general direction, the real enemy in this situation isn't said frat-boy, but myself?

    ---------- Post added at 11:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:16 PM ----------

    On another note, what is UP with all the revenge-fantasy-driven ex-bully victims coming out of the woodwork and getting off on the very premise of this show?

    Spoiler:
    "Oh Jesus, oh fuck yeah this show is gonna be fuckin' awesome! This is gonna be hella tight. Yeah, yeah, that's right Mayhem, you show that bully! That's right, you show that goddamn bully! Punish him... punish the fuck out of that bully. Oh yeah, retribution... uggh, uhhhhh, oh yes, oh yes... yeah, it feels so good to finally see these bullies get what's coming to them! Feels so fuckin' good! That's it Mayhem, spray their goddamn faces with hot liquid justice!! Awwwwwwww fuuuuuuuuuuck yeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhh!"

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  • Petter
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    Originally posted by kungfu2u View Post
    Do you really need "evidence" to figure out that self-defense is about controlling yourself, not others?
    self-defence, n. A skillset and behaviour intended to protect the practitioner from physical harm, including such areas as: avoiding dangerous areas and situations, conflict avoidance, defusing loaded situations with diplomacy, and meeting violence with sufficient violence to avoid serious injury.

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  • kungfu2u
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    Originally posted by Petter View Post
    I recall asking you to provide some evidence that this actually does any good. I notice that you did not deign to reply. Care to do so now?
    Do you really need "evidence" to figure out that self-defense is about controlling yourself, not others?

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  • Petter
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    Originally posted by kungfu2u View Post
    I said that TEACHING a code of honor and peace, was a point in their favor.
    I recall asking you to provide some ignore it and hide from the argument.]

    Again, claiming

    ---------- Post added at 09:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:58 PM ----------

    Originally posted by kungfu2u View Post
    The simple fact that no TMA school would condone seeking out instigating fights for revenge, when it's not even his fight. It would completely undermine everything they claim to stand for.
    There are several problems with this assertion:
    1. wouldenters a given school to account for.)

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  • kungfu2u
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    Originally posted by Petter View Post
    effective
    Well they ARE effective against somebody with none, which is why bullies often like to study TMA, or at least the movies that glorify it.


    We like evidence here on Bullshido. If you are making a positive claim that TMA training leads to improved character and MMA training does not, can you back this up with a single shred of evidence?
    The simple fact that no TMA school would condone seeking out instigating fights for revenge, when it's not even his fight. It would completely undermine everything they claim to stand for.



    any
    It's about the message regarding the values it stands for, i.e. self-defense vs. psychosis.


    NOW you're getting it, i.e. it's tempting on a visceral level, but then it goes against the entire principle of self-defense vs. violence against someone weaker, which is what bullying is all about.
    Here they are, deliberately baiting someone into an unequal fight, while claiming to condemn that very same thing. But it's ok, they say, because they're doing it as PAYBACK.
    Doesn't add up!

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  • Zapruder
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    Originally posted by kungfu2u View Post
    It ain't braggin' if you can do it; and you can add delusional and clueless to THAT description too.
    Yes it is bragging (please consult a dictionary), but I do agree to add delusional.

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  • kungfu2u
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    Originally posted by Teh El Macho View Post
    So there is no honor in beating the shit out of an adult, antisocial arrogant bully, forcing him to swallow a bitter dose of humility discipline, making them feel what their victims felt, and giving their victims some sense of satisfaction?

    From what planet are you from?
    Earth, where self-indulgent revenge never works out quite like on fantasy-planets.

    MMA will get the bad name regardless, from people who do not understand it as well as sore so-called TMAers who can't really cut it. It doesn't really matter what they think. This will be like caring if a retard call you names.
    They understand it fine, if it condones instigating violence instead of self-defense.
    MMA is good because it's a means to and end of better self-defense, not because violence is cool.

    You live in a fucking fantasy that TMAs live in a code of honor or peace.
    Those are YOUR words. I also said they're often hypocritical. I said that TEACHING a code of honor and peace, was a point in their favor.
    And finally, I posted a video-example.

    think it was Osiris who said that it takes a special type of asshole to brag about humility and respect. I would add delusional and clueless to that description.
    It ain't braggin' if you can do it; and you can add delusional and clueless to THAT description too.
    Last edited by kungfu2u; 3/12/2009 9:38pm, .

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  • Zapruder
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    Originally posted by kungfu2u View Post
    The only reason schools care now, is because kids have finally had enough and started going Colombine.
    You have to be one of the biggest idiots next to Happeh. Now get the fuck out of my thread.

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  • kungfu2u
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    Originally posted by Hooded Justice View Post
    Its not the job of martial arts to teach values. Its the job of martial arts to teach proper fighting technique and method. Its when they decide to focus more on "cultivating the person" instead of cultivating the fighter that the martial aspect is lost and you only have art.

    As for the courts being the best justice...I haven't laughed like that since I was a school girl. Justice is about balance. Courts are about laws which rarely ever coincide with balance. True justice will be had the instant the first strike lands on their face and they realize that they fucked up.
    No, THAT'S fucked up. Self-defense against an emergency situation is one thing, but this is outright instigation and taking the law into their own hands. You're confusing frontier justice, with CIVIL justice.

    And it IS the job of a teacher to instill values, since again, not teaching values, is teaching NO values. Axiology isn't about hatchet-fighting.

    ---------- Post added at 03:23 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:21 AM ----------

    The only reason schools care now, is because kids have finally had enough and started going Colombine.

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