"ground" competition

[Ke?poFist]

Is there such thing as a competition or fight sport that engages only on the ground, but not just submissions? Rules would be that you can ONLY strike when your on the ground, in addition to submissions and slams.

[SpringHeeledJack]

I've never heard of anything like this.

[Epicurus]

Only as a sexual game.

[kracker]

Is there such thing as a competition or fight sport that engages only on the ground, but not just submissions? Rules would be that you can ONLY strike when your on the ground, in addition to submissions and slams.

I don't think it exists but is should, that sounds awesome

[Odacon]

So a grappling competition where striking is allowed? Since a large amount of grapplers don't crosstrain the striking would be weak and twatty.

[Ke?poFist]

So a grappling competition where striking is allowed? Since a large amount of grapplers don't crosstrain the striking would be weak and twatty.

I don't know. It just came to me one day as I was thinking about the various fight sports, and their niche rulesets. You really think they'd be bad? Most people who train striking, train stand-up striking. Ground striking is a whole different animal.

I think it would be cool to see the Judo/Wrestling standup, blend into submission ground-games with some viscious GnP.

[JohnnyCache]

hmmm, it's an intersting idea...I think anyone that WOULD be inclined to compete like that probably already just does standup striking as well, though.

[Grey Owl]

Why not devise such a sport KempoFist?

[Cassius]

This seems better suited as an MMA drill than a form of competition in and of itself.

[Odacon]

I don't know. It just came to me one day as I was thinking about the various fight sports, and their niche rulesets. You really think they'd be bad? Most people who train striking, train stand-up striking. Ground striking is a whole different animal.

I think it would be cool to see the Judo/Wrestling standup, blend into submission ground-games with some viscious GnP.

No I just mean grapplers who just train to grapple aren't going to be very good strikers are they? I know striking on the ground is a whole different game compared to stand up, but how many people who train just BJJ/Judo/Wrestling do you think incorporate striking?

[Teh El Macho]

Sounds interesting, but what I would really like to see is MMA as it is today, but with mandatory gi for both participants (and with pulling guard strictly penalized... just in case.)

[Ke?poFist]

Why not devise such a sport KempoFist?

I was considering patenting the idea or something, but I lack motivation in life, and would probably fail at it anyway. I'll just leave this thread up here, hoping that someone with money, power, political clout, and ambition runs with it. Then I'll piss and moan about intellectual property, wage a legal case where I am completely in the wrong, but still get off with a sweet settlement. (free Muay Thai bag and face caged head gear perhaps?)

Sounds interesting, but what I would really like to see is MMA as it is today, but with mandatory gi for both participants (and with pulling guard strictly penalized... just in case.)

I always wanted not a gi competition, but rather a "Str33t" division in the UFC, where they are forced to wear thick long sleeve shirts, loose fitting denim jeans, and Timberland boots (THE OFFICIAL BOOT OF THE UFC). And good luck regulating that pulling guard thing :P

[Ke?poFist]

Why would you ban pulling guard?

Because he's tired of not gaining points on takedowns and getting submitted from the top.

[Teh El Macho]

Why would you ban pulling guard?

Nothing other than a personal aversion to it. I know it's part of the game, and that it's a tool I nead to learn since I'm learning sport BJJ. And since this last Monday that I almost broke my neck (really, I was this close to break it), I can appreciate the safety of it rather than going at it from standing.

Having said that, this would be a MMA-like sport, and just as in today's MMA, pulling guard is frowned upon and even ridiculed (unless the guard puller gets an amazing submission rather than just trying to slow the fucker down), so it should be in a gi-based MMA sport.

Also, notice I'm not saying to ban pulling guard, but to penalize it (substract points) in favor of violent throws and takedowns. I would not want such a new sport to degenerate into a "jab, jab, clinch, grab the gis, let's see who pulls guard first" fuck fest.

Don't read too much into this. This is strictly just a personal preference. I just hate guard pulling. Butt scooting I hate it even more. Shit, disgusting is the word I would use for it. :dontknow:

[Goju - Joe]

We do drills in CSW all the time that is grappling with strikes.

No elbows, open fist slaps to the head amd body punches.

The idea is to train you to use strikes to open people up for submissions and also block people from striking you while you go for a submission.

I don't see how this can be a competition in itself only as part of pankaration/ combat sambo or Sport ju jitsu which all start standing