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    Originally posted by Don Gwinn
    It Is Fake, you're jumping the gun. They let it go for 18 pages before they outed him on E-Budo, and much was learned in the process. Besides, it might not be him. For the time being, I'm addressing Mantis and Dr. Jones as two different people.


    So, Mantis,
    Why post faces? What are you talking about? Julio Garcia posted his face on the internet. All I did was take the pictures that he chose to post and post them on another part of the internet.

    I am endlessly amused at the people who publish information about themselves on a gigantic, global, world-spanning digital information network and then act offended because someone dares to comment on it. Standing in the middle of Yankee Stadium during the season opener carrying a sign with your martial arts claims in flashing lights would be a far more private affair than posting them on the internet. It's the internet, for the love of Pete. It has no purpose whatsoever except to distribute information to the greatest number of people across the widest geographic area possible. MY face is posted here as well, you know, along with my very unimpressive sparring videos. I post as Don Gwinn on every forum I visit with the exception of Bladeforums.com and Glocktalk, where I am still called Gwinnydapooh. I've got nothing to hide.
    As for Julio Garcia, Alonzo Jones, and all the rest, if they've got something they want to keep private, fine. Just keep it private. Don't post it on the internet. When you do, it's up for discussion. Period.


    You'd be surprised. People who don't give the subject of an investigation a fair shake get mauled here. I call it being Omega'd.


    See, THIS is the great thing about Bullshido. You had your chance to tell me I was poking fun at things I can't possibly understand. Now is where you get the chance to tell us all what those things are.

    Please explain what I have misunderstood and correct my misunderstanding. I've apologized at Bullshido and elsewhere many times and I won't hesitate to apologize to you, but you're going to have to give me a reason. What did I misunderstand?

    Excuses don't count and the truth will out. Answer these questions ASAP or surrender all credibility to your nearest proctor:

    1. What has Don Gwinn mocked that he can't understand?

    2. Why can't he understand it?

    3. Why is it wrong to post pictures of Julio Garcia performing techniques after Julio Garcia has posted those same pictures?

    4. Are the techniques in the pictures viable? If they are, how does one make them work?

    5. Does Mr. Garcia teach those techniques or was he goofing around?

    6. Again, if there's something I've misunderstood, explain it. Tell us what my error is, and tell us what the reality is. Otherwise you're just blowing smoke.
    Okay dumb dumb I jumped the gun.

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      The Nuba pictures prove that people wrestle in Africa. They do not contribute to proving that Comba-Tai practicioners in America are part of a 6,000 year lineage that goes back to approximately 4,000 BCE.

      Please answer the questions above.
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        Originally posted by Don Gwinn
        It Is Fake, you're jumping the gun. They let it go for 18 pages before they outed him on E-Budo, and much was learned in the process. Besides, it might not be him. For the time being, I'm addressing Mantis and Dr. Jones as two different people.


        So, Mantis,
        Why post faces? What are you talking about? Julio Garcia posted his face on the internet. All I did was take the pictures that he chose to post and post them on another part of the internet.

        I am endlessly amused at the people who publish information about themselves on a gigantic, global, world-spanning digital information network and then act offended because someone dares to comment on it. Standing in the middle of Yankee Stadium during the season opener carrying a sign with your martial arts claims in flashing lights would be a far more private affair than posting them on the internet. It's the internet, for the love of Pete. It has no purpose whatsoever except to distribute information to the greatest number of people across the widest geographic area possible. MY face is posted here as well, you know, along with my very unimpressive sparring videos. I post as Don Gwinn on every forum I visit with the exception of Bladeforums.com and Glocktalk, where I am still called Gwinnydapooh. I've got nothing to hide.
        As for Julio Garcia, Alonzo Jones, and all the rest, if they've got something they want to keep private, fine. Just keep it private. Don't post it on the internet. When you do, it's up for discussion. Period.


        You'd be surprised. People who don't give the subject of an investigation a fair shake get mauled here. I call it being Omega'd.


        See, THIS is the great thing about Bullshido. You had your chance to tell me I was poking fun at things I can't possibly understand. Now is where you get the chance to tell us all what those things are.

        Please explain what I have misunderstood and correct my misunderstanding. I've apologized at Bullshido and elsewhere many times and I won't hesitate to apologize to you, but you're going to have to give me a reason. What did I misunderstand?

        Excuses don't count and the truth will out. Answer these questions ASAP or surrender all credibility to your nearest proctor:

        1. What has Don Gwinn mocked that he can't understand?

        2. Why can't he understand it?

        3. Why is it wrong to post pictures of Julio Garcia performing techniques after Julio Garcia has posted those same pictures?

        4. Are the techniques in the pictures viable? If they are, how does one make them work?

        5. Does Mr. Garcia teach those techniques or was he goofing around?

        6. Again, if there's something I've misunderstood, explain it. Tell us what my error is, and tell us what the reality is. Otherwise you're just blowing smoke.
        Don,

        Are you serious? You really don't know? I thought you were just being insensitive and arrogant; I can see that it is much, much more.

        I am suppressed!

        Look at my answer to your second post and you will see what I mean.

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          Originally posted by Don Gwinn
          The Nuba pictures prove that people wrestle in Africa. They do not contribute to proving that Comba-Tai practicioners in America are part of a 6,000 year lineage that goes back to approximately 4,000 BCE.

          Please answer the questions above.

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            mantis... you talk like a snake.. full of half-comments and incomplete statemtents

            grow a set of balls little man and stand up for your self by SIMPLY stating something

            "through the lens" fuck you... your religious paradigms do not mean shit here your applying some weak ass verbal confusion to cloud the real facts.. like any pastor i have ever known....

            so... if you are jones.. or even if your not.... want to meet and "train"? I'd love to mount you from behind and beat the answers from your dickless little body....... lets have it... give me an address I can find you or jones at............

            i'lll then find time and get back to you

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              Wow. He asked for the name of a specific technique in Judo. You showed pictures of what the technique is supposed to be, done by Nubas. Then you say this proves a 6,000 year old tie to your style. No, research does not work that way.


              People with an agenda speak with the so called "forked tongue."
              Or, as I was taught out the side of your mouth.

              You don't want to answer questions fine don't. It is that simple.

              Yet, ask anyone who does real/legit research about the process and you are wrong.

              A true researcher provides his sources.
              A true researcher is not cryptic.
              A true researcher freely shares knowledge with anyone.


              This is called peer review.

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                Oops forgot the most important point.

                A true researcher answers question from people deemed unworthy.

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                  My agenda is to find out whether Comba-Tai is all it's cracked up to be or not. It's a pretty simple agenda, and it's never been hidden. Frankly, I think I've made a pretty good effort to be respectful. I just want straight answers to a few things.

                  1. Is Comba-Tai an effective art that does what it claims to do?

                  2. Is the history and lineage behind Comba-Tai legitimate?

                  3. Are the people who put their time and money into learning Comba-Tai getting good value in return?

                  It's pretty straightforward.

                  Your head is as hard as a rock!
                  You aren't the first to observe that. You probably won't be the last, either. In this case I'll take it as a compliment. It seems to be your way of expressing the fact that when I ask a question, I don't accept being put off with doublespeak.

                  Blunt politeness and polite bluntness; these are the two roads to truth.
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                    Wellll . . . it gets more and more interesting. On the one hand, it's looking more and more like there's no such person as Karen Oyama Sensei. Nobody I've talked to in Kendo has heard of the "Okinawa Kendo Federation." Frankly I'm close to concluding that Karen Oyama just had to be another sock puppet for Soke Mylemu Jones, just like when he posted as "Michael Bell" at E-Budo.

                    On the other hand, so far Master Parham's fighting and training credentials are checking out. Adam "Bar None" Guerra responded to my call for information at The Underground and vouched for Parham's fighting ability. He didn't know much about Comba-Tai except that Parham has been studying it a long time, but he did say that Parham is a good boxer with good hands and someone you could learn from. Guerra's a coach himself now and knows his stuff, so that's another check in the plus column with me. Mr. Guerra confirmed that Mr. Parham and Big John Dixson are close friends. He couldn't really tell me how much Comba-Tai John Dixson studied.
                    He summed up by describing Mr. Parham as "a cross-trainer" and a "highly skilled guy, for sure."
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                      I would like to express my respect for Don Gwinn's methods and patience in the face of.....well something. Something that cause a lesser person like myself to lose my temper and rant continuously.

                      Don, you have demonstrated the very best principles of Bullshido in your attempts here. I have refrained from posting on the matter in hand, but am highly impressed with your ability to deal with what has been presented to you here.

                      Random Bullshido Member Number 4, 826, 544 salutes you and would +rep you if it was possible in this thread.
                      "Listen to Iscariot you Vicchysoise ninja-fuckers!" - kohadril
                      "Are you going to rise to godhood out of the ashes of Earth? " - frumpleswift
                      "I'll pray for you Iscariot." - Mas
                      "Iscariot, check your pulse and report back. We need to know if you are in fact, not alive." - Lu Tzu
                      "Iscariot is victorious!" - Dai Tenshi
                      "More God delusions." - DAYoung
                      "Iscariot, despite our obvious doctrinal differences, I salute your exquisite bastardry, and take back half of all the bad things I ever said about you." - Zendetta

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                        Originally posted by Don Gwinn
                        Judo people, is there a name in Judo for gripping the opponent at the waist and sweeping the leg?
                        Not that I am aware of Don.

                        Reaps (sweeping the leg) are used in conjunction with an upper grip on your opponents arm and chest. The whole point in that is to break their "root" and then reap them. Also the higher grip is used to torque their body over the reaping leg.

                        Holding the hips would be counter productive.

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                          Mantis,

                          You are a troll.

                          You dont provide any real answers. You just give half statements, and name call to keep this thread alive in your need for attention.

                          DG is known here for his more than gracious objectivity, to almost any view, or claim, until he can prove otherwise. For you to question his objectivity, and character (the hidden agenda thing) is unexcusable. He has been polite, and reasonable. You have returned this with, bullshit and unreasonable assumptions.

                          I believe that you are seeing the claims of CT in a different unbiased light for the first "real" time and you realize that there is a more than good chance that you have been duped. You are acting the same way many people do when they receive a dose of the truth, and their little MA dream world is broken open, and the sun shines in.

                          They start with the...."You guys are not listening to logic" Even though none has been presented.

                          "You guys are ignoring the facts I have shown you" Again, even though none has been presented.

                          "You guys have made up your minds, and there is nothing that will change them. I knew you people here wouldnt understand"

                          Followed by...

                          "This is all I have to say on this subjetc, since you people are incapable of rational thought. I m outta here!"


                          I await the last one from you.

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                            Here's the thread where Adam Guerra vouches for Master Parham's skills and teaching ability:

                            http://www.mma.tv/tuf/index.cfm?ac=L...19&FID=1&pc=12

                            It now includes a video, but I'm on dial-up at the moment. I'll watch it later.

                            At this point, unless one of the other contacts comes back and contradicts Guerra, I'm going to consider Mr. Parham a legitimate martial artist and teacher. He credits Mr. Jones with teaching him to fight, so I figure that means Mr. Jones can fight and teach fighting.

                            From here on I'll be concentrating on getting some answers to some other questions, but it looks like what we have here is a group of schools teaching an effective system under an eccentric "Grandmaster" with some issues and a strange history. For all I know at this point, I may end up recommending Comba-Tai overall. We'll see.

                            The next step is to get some answers to the Karen Oyama questions.

                            I've been told flatly that no one is going to give me the information to check on the claim of Soke Mylemu Jones sending 13 attackers to the E.R. They're not obligated to give me that, of course, but it reinforces my disbelief. I realize Dr. Jones didn't make that particular claim (it was one of the "Combat Specialists," I think--one of his instructors) but it's been made and it is being discussed at this point. Besides, he must have told at least the instructors about it, and generally when we see someone make claims to his students that he doesn't want to discuss outside the school, there's a clear reason why.

                            I'm also thinking I'd like to take a deeper look at Julio Garcia.
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                              Don,

                              I think you are running a very fair investigation here, despite what some proponents of Comba-Tai think. I have watched the video, it is mostly focus mitt training, and whoever it is in the video appears to have excellent hands.

                              I find it unfortunate that Mr. Parham has decided to not answer any of your questions on the grounds that you and others are trying to discredit Mr. Jones and Comba-Tai as well as Mr. Parham.

                              I have read all of your posts on this thread as well as the one you linked above and the Comba-Tai forums, you have been nothing but gracious and respectful in your questioning and have stated on more than one occasion that you have already concluded that Mr. Parham is probably an excellent MAist, due to the testimony of other very reputable individuals. Therefore Mr. Jones, by extension, although eccentric, is most likely also an excellent MAist.

                              The only issue we are interested in being provided with indisputable proof of is the claim of 6,000 yr old history. Personally, I believe that Comba-Tai is nothing more than Kenpo with some African originated techniques (as well as many others from other MAs) thrown in. This doesn't mean that Comba-Tai is not an effective MA, it just means that Mr. Jones has attached a non-verifiable history to Comba-Tai, possibly to better market it, or to give it some cultural roots for the African American community. I do not feel I can fault Mr. Jones for wanting to do this, by many accounts he has done a lot for the community.

                              What I would like to see is either undeniable proof from Mr. Jones in regards to his lineage claims, or a rewording in regards to how Comba-Tai is presented publicly. If Mr. Jones were to offer something along the lines of "some of our tecniques have been passed down for centuries and are believed to come from an ancient order of Ethiopian Royal Knights, with these techniques possibly being 6, 000 yrs old."

                              By making a couple of small changes like "believed" and "possibly" we go from Comba-Tai's histoy being based on fact, to being based on beliefs. Which I could care less about, if he or his students want to believe it is 6,000 yrs old that's fine.

                              One final note on this excessively long post (my apologies), effectiveness and history aside, I find it disturbing that Mr. Jones posted under another name on Ebudo and then claimed to be of another ethnicity thinking that it would lend credibility to his posts. I also find it disturbing that nothing can be found on Karen Oyama or the Okinawa Kendo Federation.
                              It would also be nice to see proof of the claim that he hospitalised 13 men in a street fight.

                              Keep up the good work!
                              安氏八极拳学生

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                                Mr. Parham now says that Dr. Jones did not post as Michael Bell at E-Budo--that it was a hotheaded student.

                                I don't know. I know Mr. Parham is taking this personally, and I guess I can't blame him, but in my mind I can believe he's a good fighter and a good coach and yet still believes in a lot of bunk. There have been good fighters who've believed in Nazism, Fascism, Racism, Chi--they say the guy behind the Count Dante ads was a good fighter.

                                Dr. Jones, meanwhile, has disappeared. He's letting Mr. Parham be the guy out front. I know I'm going to be accused of having an agenda for saying this, but that's another step on the checklist of people who aren't being honest. I'm spending half my time telling people that I'm not picking on Mr. Parham as a martial artist when it should be clear because I should be having conversations with Dr. Jones instead--because he's the one with the most questionable claims.

                                I think Mr. Parham or other Comba-Tai students would probably gladly attend a Throwdown. If they did, they might feel better about Bullshido afterward. I don't know.

                                In the end, my main question has essentially been answered. The history stuff is less important, but I still want to know the answers.

                                Now, Julio G. on the other hand . . . . I want to know whether he teaches people to kick guns out of hands. And I wouldn't mind knowing if he really worked as a bodyguard for Fidel Castro.
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