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    I have been a bit rubbish about sorting out the videos, largely due to being over committed and stressed.

    Will get them to Cy by Sunday evening.


    In the meantime, I have been following events in Dumfries as kindly posted by a recent poster

    The fun never stops in Dumfries apparently

    All kinds of worms are crawling out of the woodwork

    http://www2.insidenova.com/isn/news/...umfries/57994/

    just type "Mackey" into the search function of the site in the above link for the relevant news stories.

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      I've been communicating with Bob Carson (who interviewed Cy and S. Browning regarding Frank Dux). He seems interested in the case of KFG. Would any of the lead investigators (e.g. littleoldme or Matt Phillips) be interested in going on his show to get the story out?

      I also recommended that he try to contact Blythe himself for an interview, just in case he's willing to talk if he doesn't feel threatened. (It would have to be on a separate show, without any of his investigators on the line, as was the case with the Dux interview.)

      Carson has a good rapport with a lot of MMA fighters, so maybe he can get one or more of them to join the cause and wear a Justice4KungFuGuy.com T-shirt before getting into the cage.

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        Originally posted by Guirikingo View Post
        I've been communicating with Bob Carson (who interviewed Cy and S. Browning regarding Frank Dux). He seems interested in the case of KFG. Would any of the lead investigators (e.g. littleoldme or Matt Phillips) be interested in going on his show to get the story out?

        I also recommended that he try to contact Blythe himself for an interview, just in case he's willing to talk if he doesn't feel threatened. (It would have to be on a separate show, without any of his investigators on the line, as was the case with the Dux interview.)

        Carson has a good rapport with a lot of MMA fighters, so maybe he can get one or more of them to join the cause and wear a Justice4KungFuGuy.com T-shirt before getting into the cage.
        I am not at all sure that I would be a good person and for various reasons I have to keep my real life ID anonymous. Also I'm thousands of miles away.

        I have serious problems with the Justice4KungFuGuy.com website, namely posting speculation as fact with regards to the bystanders, which could lead to a terrible situation with innocent people getting hurt. I'm just saying that I do not suport the idea of anyone wearing a Justice4KungFuGuy.com t shirt.

        I'm still recovering from a nasty illness and way over committed so I would support the people at Bullshido in agreeing who should do this, if anyone.

        I still have not sent the videos to Cy, so sorry but I've been ill on top of everything else.

        Normal service will be resumed ASAP

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          I just checked the J4KFG website, which I thought was run by a Bullshido member. IMO it maintains a level-headed tone, as it underscores the importance of not getting into a vigilante mindset, posting people's addresses, etc. It only states with certainty that BJB and WJD were present, and then gives a list of *possible* witnesses. It doesn't state with certainty that those people were present, but does provide footnotes (many of them to Bullshido posts) giving reasons for such speculation.

          I know I'm still a newby playing a small part in this investigation, so I will humbly submit to the mods here if they don't want to promote that website. Having said that, would it be possible for Bullshido to make its own short and careful summary page about this case (distinct from the eventual full report), with an easy-to-remember url for publicity purposes?

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            What in tarnations is going on in Dumfries VA?? - Glock Talk

            Town manager's name, responsible for initiating investigations leading to Dumfried PD firings, is Kim Alexander.

            If you do a Google search, you'll find that she or her reps have definitely been made aware of the KFG issue, and that the Prince William dept is reported to be behind the investigations leading to the firings.

            It's possible that the firings are KFG related, but no doubt there is more to see when you turn over the DPD rock and look underneath.

            It is totally permissible to kiss my ass, now, after predictions made earlier in this thread.

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              wow, great investigation. spent all day reading the entire thing. wish i could help in some way, i live in fairfax county myself, a stone throw's away from pwc.

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                Originally posted by Trubble View Post
                wow, great investigation. spent all day reading the entire thing. wish i could help in some way, i live in fairfax county myself, a stone throw's away from pwc.

                Here's an obsession I have: if you get the chance to access the Potomac News newspaper (former name of Inside NoVa) back issues from 1984-5, which are only available on microfilm at PWC libraries, could you check out the "Religion" section? There are several listings of pastors there who might have known the victim.

                If you're too busy, I will be in the area myself in a few weeks, and can check out the info myself. The idea would be to figure out where those pastors are now.

                I spent several hours going through that microfilm when I was in the area last year, but found nothing directly related to either the victim or Blythe, though there were unsurprisingly enough several news stories about scandals and corruption related to the Dumfries and PWC PDs. It only occurred to me to track down the pastor info afterwards, but I do clearly remember there were adverts for churches in the general area, and Dumfries specifically, several of which serving an African-American demographic.

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                  Looks like Blythe's Facebook page is back up. And he even still has friends.

                  He lists one of his activities as, "Dear Lord, please give me the strength to not slap an idiot today......Amen."

                  How ironic.

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                    Since Ronald Mackey has been fired for being a liar, we can assume he was lying when he said kung fu guy was alive, otherwise they would provide his identity. I really feel that this case is only the tip of the iceberg, and the rest involves the corruption and good old boy mentality of the Dumfries police.

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                      Originally posted by Re4 View Post
                      Since Ronald Mackey has been fired for being a liar, we can assume he was lying when he said kung fu guy was alive, otherwise they would provide his identity. I really feel that this case is only the tip of the iceberg, and the rest involves the corruption and good old boy mentality of the Dumfries police.
                      huh? Proof please of Mackey's firing and the reasons for this firing.

                      A newspaper article would be good.

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                        Originally posted by Re4 View Post
                        Since Ronald Mackey has been fired for being a liar, we can assume he was lying when he said kung fu guy was alive, otherwise they would provide his identity. I really feel that this case is only the tip of the iceberg, and the rest involves the corruption and good old boy mentality of the Dumfries police.
                        No, you can assume and make that leap in logic. People do change as they get older and what he did to get fired doesn't necessarily reflect on his past actions.



                        http://www2.insidenova.com/news/2010...nce-ar-428506/
                        DUMFRIES, Va. -- Dumfries Police Capt. Ronald Mackey was fired for not being truthful, not reporting violations to the department's General Orders and negligence of duty.
                        --snip--
                        He chose not to resign and was fired in May, according to Dumfries Town Manager Kimberley Alexan-der.

                        Sustained administrative charges of violations to the Dumfries Police Department's General Orders against Mackey were:

                        • Duty to report violations. "This means not reporting certain violations that he knew about," Alexander said.

                        • Truthfulness.

                        • Two incidents of violating the "Supervisor Responsibilities/Neglect of Duty" section.

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                          Looks like Blythe crashed his plane (again!) on Oct 21, 2011. According to this report Blythe suffered "a moderate head injury."

                          A second report mentions that Blythe, "has a few felonies," and that, "The FAA took Bobby Joe Blythe's pilot's license away from him in 2001, after he did not mention he was convicted of two felonies related to drug possession."

                          A much more detailed story about the crash can be found here.
                          Last edited by noosphere; 11/15/2011 12:17pm, .

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                            Is there a chance this is kung fu guy?
                            doenetwork.org/cases/562umva.html

                            Fairfax County is next to Prince William County.
                            upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/Fairfax_County2.png

                            John Doe has an exostosis on his left maxilla.
                            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exostosis
                            Last edited by cowardly-lurker; 4/08/2012 9:05pm, .

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                              Originally posted by cowardly-lurker View Post
                              Is there a chance this is kung fu guy?
                              doenetwork.org/cases/562umva.html

                              Fairfax County is next to Prince William County.
                              upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/Fairfax_County2.png

                              John Doe has an exostosis on his left maxilla.
                              en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exostosis
                              Anything's possible. The clothing is clearly not the same; don't know if you're implying that he died that day, or just that it might be him...

                              Clothing: Found at scene: tan slacks, size 34-32, gray-green slacks, size 34-29, one left Reebok DMX tennis shoe, size 9. A Chicago White Sox cap.


                              Also, it might be worth running down the name "John Hardy" as related to martial arts ;)
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                                At first, I dismissed John Doe being KFG based on height and date. However, there is room for doubt.

                                John Doe is 5"7-8 based on skeletal remains.
                                Height for KFG is listed as 6"2 on justice4kungfuguy.com
                                Height for Willie J. Dennis on his arrest record is 5"9.
                                In his brown shoes?
                                naming-schemes.org/~chardin/bjblythe/images/full-size/dennis-arrest-record-2.png
                                Bobby Joe Blythe looks very short.
                                justice4kungfuguy.com/_images/bjb2.jpg
                                justice4kungfuguy.com/_images/bjb3.jpg
                                justice4kungfuguy.com/_images/bjb4.jpg
                                justice4kungfuguy.com/_images/bjb5.jpg

                                Here is Bobby Joe Blythe standing almost at same distance from camera as KFG. KFG may not have been 6"2.
                                justice4kungfuguy.com/_images/kfg3.jpg

                                If his age estimate is accurate, John Doe was between 35-39 years old in January 2002. He would have been born between 1962-67 and aged 17-23 in 1984.

                                John Doe's left cheek had an "exostosis". I think this means a new bone formation or bone spur that could have been caused by injury, such as when stomped with his left cheek against a metal disk at 4 min 53 seconds in the video (the first stomp).

                                Also coincidental is where John Doe was found and was said to have lived as a homeless person.

                                I find it hard to believe KFG survived the attack though.

                                en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hardy_%28song%29
                                "John Hardy" is a traditional American folk song based on the life of a railroad worker in West Virginia. The historical John Hardy killed a man during a craps game, was found guilty of murder in the first degree, and was hanged on January 19, 1894.
                                Last edited by cowardly-lurker; 4/08/2012 11:22pm, . Reason: inaccuracies; additional information

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