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    Anyone heard of Master Lawrence Lee?

    He was Kostya Tszyu's "martial arts connection" and trainer before Kostya got owned in his come- back fight. I want to know if anyone from Australia, or anywhere else, has had any contact with him and what were their experiences.
    Claimed martial arts experience, which I don't have much reason to doubt:

    *Wushu master
    *Muay Thai
    *Taekwondo master
    *Boxing
    *Fencing

    However, he also claimed, of which I have many doubts:

    *Built Total Control (his "system") from the ground up
    *Best system in the world, unbeatable (warning bells)
    *Based on the movements of UFO's (yes, you heard me, his promotional material included this statement)
    *Based on science (contradicting other claim, unless he meant fiction)

    Please don't state the perceived obvious, I couldn't find any threads on him here, but I believe he is in the Blitz Magazine (Australian MA publication) Hall of Fame, or at least was an instructor of the year.

    Does anyone have an insight?
    GET A RED BELT OR DIE TRYIN'.
    Originally posted by Devil
    I think Battlefields and I had a spirited discussion once about who was the biggest narcissist. We both wanted the title but at the end of the day I had to concede defeat. Can't win 'em all.
    Originally posted by BackFistMonkey
    I <3 Battlefields...

    #2
    I think this speaks for itself.

    YouTube - Lawrence Lee

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      #3
      marcusdbrutus, unfortunately work has put a block on youtube so I can't view that. What is the video saying for itself?
      GET A RED BELT OR DIE TRYIN'.
      Originally posted by Devil
      I think Battlefields and I had a spirited discussion once about who was the biggest narcissist. We both wanted the title but at the end of the day I had to concede defeat. Can't win 'em all.
      Originally posted by BackFistMonkey
      I <3 Battlefields...

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        #4
        It's a 10 second video of him doing some showy wushu, and telling us that the truth is out there and to trust no one but Lawrence Lee. Also Tszyu pops up for a second and agrees with him....in rhyme. Its sort of funny.

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          #5
          What come back fight are you referring to? The last fight I remember Tszyu fighting was Hatton am I in correct?

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            #6
            No idea, hoodedmonk. Didn't really follow that part of his career. Just something I vaguely remembered from a few years ago, around 2002-3. I might have to be schooled on the history, but as I said, I don't know much except he was Russian and won a few championship belts for Australia. I respect him for that. I just wanted to know if anyone had trained with Lawrence and had formed an opinion on his system.
            GET A RED BELT OR DIE TRYIN'.
            Originally posted by Devil
            I think Battlefields and I had a spirited discussion once about who was the biggest narcissist. We both wanted the title but at the end of the day I had to concede defeat. Can't win 'em all.
            Originally posted by BackFistMonkey
            I <3 Battlefields...

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              #7
              Originally posted by battlefields
              No idea, hoodedmonk. Didn't really follow that part of his career. Just something I vaguely remembered from a few years ago, around 2002-3. I might have to be schooled on the history, but as I said, I don't know much except he was Russian and won a few championship belts for Australia. I respect him for that. I just wanted to know if anyone had trained with Lawrence and had formed an opinion on his system.
              Hey no prob. Tszyu is one of my favorite boxers and the room got dark for a minute when you said schooled in his comeback fight! Anyway To my knowledge Tszyu did train martial arts when he was younger he was also Russian millatary. Unfortunately I cant offer anything helpful on Lawrence.

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                #8
                Originally posted by marcusdbrutus
                I think this speaks for itself.

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Et5K9TXxMM
                I can't stop laughing at this.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by EternalRage
                  I can't stop laughing at this.
                  Nobody laughs at Lawrence Lee!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by hoodedmonk
                    Hey no prob. Tszyu is one of my favorite boxers and the room got dark for a minute when you said schooled in his comeback fight! Anyway To my knowledge Tszyu did train martial arts when he was younger he was also Russian millatary. Unfortunately I cant offer anything helpful on Lawrence.
                    Tszyu is having financial difficulties, so the talk of a comeback has been around for a while. However, nothing has materialized as of yet, and the chances remain slim that he steps back into the ring.

                    As far as training in a MA as a youth: unlikely. Tszyu began boxing at a young age (preteen), and he impressed immediately. As was typical at the time, he was grouped with other promising boxers, and they all trained for up to 300 days annually. Tszyu trained this way for years, which left little time for any other MA training.

                    During Tszyu's time in the Soviet military, he was classified as an elite athlete, meaning he was not required to participate in combat. He trained his boxing with other elite boxers. The Soviets didn't cross train their athletes; specialization was the order of the day.

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                      #11
                      Sifu Lee's style is known as Tong Kune Do, and he resides in Wareemba. His email addy is [email protected].

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by faybio
                        Tszyu is having financial difficulties, so the talk of a comeback has been around for a while. However, nothing has materialized as of yet, and the chances remain slim that he steps back into the ring.

                        As far as training in a MA as a youth: unlikely. Tszyu began boxing at a young age (preteen), and he impressed immediately. As was typical at the time, he was grouped with other promising boxers, and they all trained for up to 300 days annually. Tszyu trained this way for years, which left little time for any other MA training.

                        During Tszyu's time in the Soviet military, he was classified as an elite athlete, meaning he was not required to participate in combat. He trained his boxing with other elite boxers. The Soviets didn't cross train their athletes; specialization was the order of the day.
                        I could have sworn I heard something about him kickboxing but I could be wrong.

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                          #13
                          This exchange is excerpted from the linked video's comment section:


                          It's a little puzzling because gabrielwall is YouTube - Ave Maria- Gabriel Wall, not Lawrence Lee.

                          I've asked BondBomber to share his experience here.

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                            #14
                            We should talk more about tszyu!

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                              #15
                              I thought I would reply here since a lot of people will try and talk crap about Lawrence especially since this is Bullshido and you all smell a rat :) Bear in mind though that you are only speculating on what he must be like.

                              I know a lot about Lawrence Lee. I have trained with him and he lives about 20 mins from me. What do you want to know?

                              I will clear up what I can.

                              1. The youtube clip was just a little ad they did years ago. It was just meant to be catchy and they did it themselves.

                              2. When Lawrence talks about UFO's he doesn't mean literally! You need to speak to him and he explains all of this. He also talks about Nuclear Weapons too. He doesn't have any nukes! What he means is if you can't see it coming it's unidentified right? Also a Nuke is what he means by an unstoppable move resulting in a knockout. It is set up then BANG! Nuke. See?

                              3. He did train Kostya for a long time. Mainly in Iron Palm training to protect his hands. Kostya is actually an advanced student of this. Also improved his boxing.

                              4. As far as his expertise goes I will say he is simply amazing to see in action. I wish you could see him in person to fully appreciate the speed and power he makes.

                              5. He is also VERY scientific. Everything is explained in a rational and scientific way. Everything is effective or as he likes to say "it goes in the bin"

                              Hope this helps and ignore that BS post above. Lawrence has lived in the same place for ages and he is NOT hard to find.

                              Any questions I will try and answer as long as they are sensible.

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