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    Purple Belt to Black Belt Instructor in months with out going to a class

    I trained with a guy named Dale Kliparchuk in Edmonton Alberta Canada. that was a purple belt, about one year training. He left the school and months later My buddy tells me one of my Instructors is teaching him jujitsu at his school, so I go to take a look to see who it is, and I see him teaching a class in jujitsu as a black belt, The school was a kickboxing school and he told the instructor he had his black Belt. So he let him teach the grappling. Now I just read the saturday Edmonton Sun, and I find out this guy is now the Chairman of the MMA committee of the Association of boxing commission. and he is making MMA rule changes. How would this commission put someone like this in charge of anything? How do the frauds of the world Get this type of power ? and what should be done about it?

    #2
    Its too esay to get people to believe lies, you just have to be confident.

    Anyway, you need to get some proof if you are making a claim here.

    Name? Age? Rank? Evidence of these? Pictures?(preferably of him wearing his ranks, especially his BB) Websites (MySpace, school where he teaches, etc,) Name of the school he teaches at and the school he trained at to receive a purple in BJJ? Instructors name? Phone Number so it can be verified?

    Is he claiming BB in BJJ or Traditional Japanese Jiu Jitsu? How do you know he is not a TJJJ BB?

    Lastly, once you provide us with this info, you need to invite him onto this thread/forum so that he can defend himself. No with hunts or hidden agendas here please.

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      #3
      Tjkmma, I've done some Googling and while there is a lot of interesting stuff concerning this fellow I have yet to find anything that says he claims to be a BB in BJJ. Can you provide some proof for this claim?

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        #4
        I think the only option is death. Killing him will make things right.

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          #5
          Originally posted by tjkmma
          I trained with a guy named Dale Kliparchuk in Edmonton Alberta Canada. that was a purple belt, about one year training. He left the school and months later My buddy tells me one of my Instructors is teaching him jujitsu at his school, so I go to take a look to see who it is, and I see him teaching a class in jujitsu as a black belt
          You seem to really dislike this guy.

          No BS Martial Arts - View Single Post - Taiyoku?

          Commission members are elected. If you really have a hate on for the guy, run against him and get elected in his place.

          The following is from a law enforcement review board of an incident in which Mr Kliparchuk was a complainant to the conduct of an officer.

          http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:...ient=firefox-a

          [42] Mr. Kliparchuk testified that he has been involved in martial arts since he was five years old, had six different black belts, is an expert on the Boxing and Wrestling Commission for the City, was a former member of EPS, was trained in equivalent tactics and received training as a firearms instructor through Smith and Wesson. He also stated he was a pressure point control tactics (PPCT) instructor, side-handle baton instructor and taught at a Canadian Use of Force Conference. He testified that he has been a supplier and consultant for law enforcement agencies across Canada, including the EPS until this event.
          He testified in a quasi-judicial inquiry that he had a black belt. There were people present that obviously knew his life in detail and none of them questioned this.
          [55] Mr. Kliparchuk agreed that he had been hired as a recruit constable on or about December 8, 1986, and that on or about March 4, 1988, his service had been terminated by the EPS.
          Mr Kliparchuck was obviously a member of the Edmonton Police Service, any unsubstantiated accusations as to why he left are inflammatory at best and possibly slander. The OP may want to check his facts a bit more.

          I second the motion that you invite Mr Kliparchuck here to explain his martial arts background.

          Though if we are going to look at something in Edmonton for signs of Misleading advertising, we should look at these guys: http://www.edmontonmixedmartialarts.ca/

          They claim to be a Mixed Martial Arts school, yet they dont teach Mixed Martial Arts. LOL.
          Last edited by Askari; 6/30/2008 5:12am, .
          "Sifu, I"m niether - I'm a fire dragon so don't fuck with me!"

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            #6
            At the time Dale had no Black belts in anything he told me he was on the police force. but at the time he was already kicked off. Im pissed off at him becouse I had a family member raped by someone who said he was on the police force, and dale told me years after he was kicked off that he was still a policeman. I traided with him, thought he was my freind and find out later he lied to me. It is a sore point for me.

            When I asked how he got his black belt so fast he said he got it from joe lewis.

            Dale could have a Black Belt now, but he did lie about it then. He did not say bjj he said in the style he and I were training in.

            When I read the paper the other day. I should of called him and asked. But I just got pissed. I just thought he got it from old lies.

            If he was elected more power to him. as long as it was not from lies.


            I will talk to Dale myself and see what he has to say. I should of doin that first.

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              #7
              (Redirected from Mixed martial arts)
              A style of combat/martial arts training that involves training in multiple styles of fighting to include all ranges of combat. The ranges of combat are defined as stand-up, clinch and grappling. Stand-up styles include muay thai, boxing, kickboxing and karate. Styles that emphasize clinching include greo-roman wrestling and muay thai. Grappling styles include judo, sambo, brazilian jiu-jitsu, freestyle wrestling, catch wrestling and shoot wrestling.
              Retrieved from "http://www.bullshido.org/Mixed_Martial_Arts"
              Category: Martial Arts Terms


              If a school does this is it not Mixed Martial Arts

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                #8
                Originally posted by tjkmma
                At the time Dale had no Black belts in anything he told me he was on the police force. but at the time he was already kicked off. Im pissed off at him becouse I had a family member raped by someone who said he was on the police force, and dale told me years after he was kicked off that he was still a policeman.
                Can you please clarify this statement? Are you saying this Dale character told a rape victim he was a police officer? I ask because I can't understand what you're trying to say. Bearing in mind that since impersonating a police officer is a crime this could have been followed-up with the proper authorities (assuming my interpretation of what you said is correct).

                Furthermore your opening statement had references to a 'purple belt', 'grappling' and 'jitsu' which would lead someone to think you were talking about 'Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu'. Is this what he is claiming as his black-belt?

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                  #9
                  The style that we both trained in had jujitsu in it. he was a purple belt but it was not BJJ.

                  Becouse I had a bad experiance with a Person impersonating a police officer. When I found out he was kicked out years before. I was pissed more then I would have been.


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                  [55] Mr. Kliparchuk agreed that he had been hired as a recruit constable on or about December 8, 1986, and that on or about March 4, 1988, his service had been terminated by the EPS.


                  He was telling me he was a Police officer in the middle to Late 1990s. I Told friends and family you can trust him he is a police officer. so I am Pissed at him.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by tjkmma
                    If a school does this is it not Mixed Martial Arts
                    I'll take your thread drift, and go with it. To use Edmonton Mixed Martial Arts as an example of miss-leading advertising as they seem to be trying to pretend to be something they are not.

                    On their website they advertise that they teach:
                    Edmonton Mixed Martial Arts offers TJK (Taiyoku, Jujitsu, Karate) curriculum. The curriculum includes the practical and functional aspects of many styles including Karate, Jujitsu (Jiujitsu), Muay Thai / Kick Boxing, Kung Fu and Tae Kwon Do.
                    Just mixing up martial arts is not teaching MMA. MMA is a sport unto itself and requires that you learn it, not just some amalgamation of martial arts.

                    The images on the site show that they dont know how to do a basic arm bar:


                    I searched for a fight record for the school owner: Michael Woodford, he doesnt have one that I can find. Link to the search I performed

                    This would be like claiming to teach soccer, but never having played soccer.

                    So yeah, this club Edmonton Mixed Martial Arts is, in my opinion, miss-leading people with the name of their club. If we are going to do a fullsome investigation into bullshido in Edmonton, why dont we start with them? and then move on to guys you have a grudge against.
                    "Sifu, I"m niether - I'm a fire dragon so don't fuck with me!"

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                      #11
                      First I talked to Dales and my old instructor yesturday and he was not happy with me. He told me that it was along time ago, and Dale could have a legit Rank by now. If I have a problem with Dale I should talk to Dale before I put it on the internet. I know he is right. I posted when I was mad, I should not of did that!


                      Askari if you are Dale im sorry I should have talked to you first!



                      If not sorry for wasting your time, before I looked into It more myself!



                      I trained at the school you are talking about. And I have competed myself. I have seen the instructor compete years ago.

                      I have a school myself now. I call it mixed I do the same style.

                      It was always called a mixed style before UFC.

                      the Instructor you are talking about has alway been legit He would not call it Mixed if he did not think it was and I would not ether.

                      I would never want to miss-lead anyone and I know he would not ether. so what is mixed ?


                      (Redirected from Mixed martial arts)
                      A style of combat/martial arts training that involves training in multiple styles of fighting to include all ranges of combat. The ranges of combat are defined as stand-up, clinch and grappling. Stand-up styles include muay thai, boxing, kickboxing and karate. Styles that emphasize clinching include greo-roman wrestling and muay thai. Grappling styles include judo, sambo, brazilian jiu-jitsu, freestyle wrestling, catch wrestling and shoot wrestling.
                      Retrieved from "http://www.bullshido.org/Mixed_Martial_Arts"
                      Category: Martial Arts Terms


                      But this is from the martial arts encyclopedia if a style does this is it Mixed? Who makes the rules on what is mixed? If a student trains and competes is he mixed? If another student in the same school just trains is he not mixed?

                      I think the encyclopedia is right!

                      why cant it be sport or self defence?

                      I think someone can just train in mixed for self defence and its better then other styles! you need to fight in all ranges.




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                        #12
                        It is misleading to call yourself a Mixed Martial Arts school nowadays as MMA is taken to mean "that UFC stuff".

                        I understand you have called it mixed martial arts or mixing martial arts etc for some time so maybe it is best to let potential students know that your version of MMA is not the same style of MMA popularized by the UFC.

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                          #13
                          That is what is told to the students before they ever start. they get to try it out before they ever start. they go to a number of classes to see if it is what they are looking for. before they ever join. when we get a student that wants to fight right away we send the to a school we know is what they are looking for. If they want BJJ If we are not right for them we will send them to the right place. Call up one of the schools if you like. go to one of them It will not cost you anything to see.


                          But alot of the style is MMA, And students can get trained for almost any style of fighting the Instructors have Teaching level Ranks in, and have competed in. ( no WTF )
                          If a student works hard has a good additude and proves them selfs, and would like to train and compete they can. But it is not the main focse. why cant a 30 or 40 year old student train in a style they love, fight in the school. enjoy watching the UFC MMA style fights even more, becouse they know and do most of the moves they see at the fights. Can defend them self, and they can ever go to work in the morning. ,

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                            #14
                            I am not Dale, but yes you should have called him first.

                            This can is now yours. I am going to go about this initially assuming that you are not intentionally miss-leading your students. But let us be very clear right now, I think you are miss-leading them with the name of your school, and the descriptions you are giving here.
                            Originally posted by tjkmma
                            I trained at the school you are talking about. And I have competed myself. I have seen the instructor compete years ago.
                            Competed at what?

                            Statements like that one are miss-leading, either intentionally or not. Naming your school Mixed Martial Arts MMA is something you should be very careful of and make sure that you are completely clear.

                            Originally posted by tjkmma
                            But this is from the martial arts encyclopedia if a style does this is it Mixed? Who makes the rules on what is mixed? If a student trains and competes is he mixed? If another student in the same school just trains is he not mixed?
                            Please provide a link to one instructor or student from your style who has competed in MMA.

                            In order to be MMA, you or someone in your school has to actually do MMA. MMA is a sport, a set of rules to fight by, not a mixed up collection of techniques.

                            Originally posted by tjkmma
                            But alot of the style is MMA
                            Is it?
                            Originally posted by tjkmma
                            It was always called a mixed style before UFC
                            Please prove this, the term "Mixed Martial Arts" is very new, the UFC started in 1993 and the term MMA was coined after that. I have never once heard of anyone using the term MMA before that.
                            "Sifu, I"m niether - I'm a fire dragon so don't fuck with me!"

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                              #15
                              I understand the need to look out for the fakes out there. I have a problem with that mayself. To not allow someone to call a school MMA becouse it is not your idea of mma, is not the best way to go. If all Karate had to be owkinawan Karate we would not have kyokusin or shotokan and others. If some one did not allow the gracies to make BJJ from a more traditional style We all would be missing out.

                              I think you can have meny karate styles

                              and there are meny MMA styles.



                              My instructors instrutor called it a mixed style in the 70s not mixed martial arts but a mixed style. The name change came after may instructor started training with Jerry Jones. http://www.web.mac.com/jerryjonesmma...s/Welcome.html

                              The Jujtsu we did was more stand up and he thought we needed to be better on the ground. And Mr Jones had much more up to date MMA. So now the Instructors train with Mr Jones.

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