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    #2
    I know almost nothing of Chinese arts, but Kajukenbo and Kyokushin systems both have an idea about learning hard fighting style until first dan, then learn the soft. Oyama said the circle is superior to the line.
    "Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez

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      #3
      i think as long as you have realistic sparring, you can learn how to use the techniques. that way you can use the criterion of usefulness to discover the truth in martial arts. that's why i think san shou is an essential development for the CMAs. i would love to see more MMAs over there too.

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        #4
        I myself train in internal CMA, and have never been taught 'flowery' or excessively elaborate techniques. Maybe it's because the instructor has plenty of real-life fight experience...but I think that any art, trained well, would stress simple techniques.

        As to Chinese vs. Japanese...I think *any* verdict would be premature. My own Japanese experience is with a very rigid style (Shotokan), and so I tend to think of J styles as excessively formalistic and stiff. But wouldn't a *good* fighter/practitioner in Shotokan abandon stiffness and move toward a relaxed and natural dynamic closer to the archetypcal ICMA?

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          #5
          Originally posted by patfromlogan
          Oyama said the circle is superior to the line.
          Oyama had some influence from Tai-Chi from stories i've read.

          http://crane.50megs.com/index6j.htm

          ^^ good article on that.
          Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's relativity.
          -Albert Einstein

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            #6
            It is very hard to put ANY style into a category like hard and soft or cirular and linear, most styles have both, some may start a certain way then change, Goju for example, starts hard and goes soft, Taiji, starts soft and goes hard.
            On an average, most chinese styles are more "flowing" as oppose to the almost militaristic stly of the japanese arts. Most chinese systems advocate a "relaxed" teaching method, while most japanese are more strict.
            But the styles per se... that is very hard to lump them into one catgory or they other.

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