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    Dungeon MMA in Kingston, ON

    There's a new gym that appears to be opening here in Kingston, although at the moment the extent of it seems to be a facebook page and a basic intro page on a website. Nothing wrong with that, it's great to see expanding interest in the sport, and Kingston's a fairly big city.

    However, the owner of this prospective gym, Ryan Fitzgerald is claiming a blackbelt in BJJ. In 6 years. And his last name is not Penn. There's only a handful of BBs in Canada, and a bunch of them are Brazilian at that, so it was quite a surprise to see a 27 year old make this claim.

    He says that he's trained at Bisset Academy in Calgary, then Gracie Barra Calgary under Josh Russel ( who is a very legit BB), then Fredericton BJJ. If he is being less than truthful about his BB, dropping names like that is definitely not cool.

    The gym is fairly pricey for the area, if his BB is in Japanes JJ. The other experience he is claiming is somewhat lacking for a head coach, given the proven record of other trainers in the area, and the competition record is amateur, and pretty much impossible to verify.

    The black belt is the only thing that I have a problem with here. Anyone can open up a gym and charge whatever they want for it, buyer beware. Their effectiveness as an instructor cannot be faked, but the BB is more or less a professional designation in this sport. If he is legit, awesome, but I have my suspicions, as he hasn't responded to other inquiries about his experience.

    So I leave it to you guys here to take a look into this, there's already skepticism on the facebook page, but bullshido seems to have a way of moving things along rapidly...

    Facebook:
    http://www.facebook.com/wall.php?id=6192001947

    Website:
    http://dungeonmma.ca/

    #2
    From the looks of their pictures....

    Perhaps.

    But still, not to be confused with the guys down in Cape Cod, they're also called Dungeon MMA.

    And I might add, the real deal.

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      #3
      Read his threads, sounds like he is a traditional JJ Black Belt.

      When they open, I volunteer to stop by and ask to see certificates.
      "Sifu, I"m niether - I'm a fire dragon so don't fuck with me!"

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        #4
        He specifically says BJJ (blackbelt), and hasn't answered repeatedly requests for clarification. I think you're correct, and he has a BB in JJJ.

        But he has deleted a second post for clarification which was asked this afternoon.

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          #5
          Update: He has said it was a mistake, and that he is really a blue. Why he chose to wait a week to clear it up, I do not know, but he is being honest about the BJJ now.

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            #6
            One more update, cause I know there's people in the area paying attention...

            Spoke with Josh Russell from Gracie Barra Calgary, he doesn't know Ryan Fitzgerald, hasn't given him a blue, and quite frankly, doesn't want to be associated with him. At all.

            Josh runs a great gym out there, and was very concerned about his name being used. So I repeat, Josh Russell does not know of him, and Gracie Barra Calgary is not connected in any way whatsoever to Dungeon MMA.

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              #7
              Keep up the good work. Sounds like this guy is padding his resume waaay too much.
              " If one wants to have a friend one must also want to wage war for him: and to wage war one must be capable of being an enemy." - Fr. Nietzsche 'On The Friend' Thus Spake Zarathustra

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                #8
                Hey guys, just wanted to report in. Dungeon MMA turned out to be bullshit, but a couple of the guys they were getting to be trainers there opened up a pretty fuckin' great gym called Gladiator MMA. Mark Cleary's the MT instructor, and Rob Wynne leads the no-gi BJJ class. They also have 2 other UGC champs (not including Rob) and a pro fight team that's having tryouts soon.

                Hope to see some of you guys there.

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                  #9
                  Took a while to follow up, but glad to hear from you.
                  I am always a bit more interested in these sorts of things when it is closer to my neck of the woods..mind you, Kingston is fucking long drive from here. I haven't been there since I was about 15.
                  Did Dungeon close down?
                  " If one wants to have a friend one must also want to wage war for him: and to wage war one must be capable of being an enemy." - Fr. Nietzsche 'On The Friend' Thus Spake Zarathustra

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                    #10
                    Gladiator MMA is the best MMA gym in Kingston.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by TonyFerrer View Post
                      Gladiator MMA is the best MMA gym in Kingston.

                      Gladiator's closed. Now your options in kingston ontario are: Martial Arts aXis, Patenaude Kung Fu or Martial Arts Planet.

                      Martial Arts aXis

                      From what I hear, it's the goto brazilian jiu jitsu school. the guy running it trained with the gracies for a number of years. They offer an mma program but you have to qualify for it by proving you have the fundamentals in place first. There's a whole blueprint to their curriculum and it must be working. When I was there even their new guys were pretty good. I'm at a new place now that I left Kingston and it's cool but I liked this place best.

                      http://www.martialartsaxis.com


                      Pantenaude Kung Fu

                      They teach mix of kung fu and sanshou.. Bones Jones is probably the best known sanshou fighter right now. I think they have weapon classes too. I didn't train there but talking to people made the school sound pretty cool.

                      http://www.fangsendo.com/


                      Martial Arts Planet

                      I was only in kingston for 5 months and went here first. Everyone seemed really nice but in my research and talking to people I got a mixed bag of responses from people training there. More then one described it as the people eating corporate mcdojo of town. One of my friends actually trained there the head instructor dislocated his shoulder doing a move on him. He didn't get past month 2. Thats also part of why I didn't choose this school. Good people, nice looking school. Just too much sketchy stuff & drama discovered once I did some investigating.

                      http://www.martailartsplanet.ca



                      Check the sites & choose for yourself.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by sciencerules View Post
                        Gladiator's closed. Now your options in kingston ontario are: Martial Arts aXis, Patenaude Kung Fu or Martial Arts Planet.

                        Martial Arts aXis

                        From what I hear, it's the goto brazilian jiu jitsu school. the guy running it trained with the gracies for a number of years. They offer an mma program but you have to qualify for it by proving you have the fundamentals in place first. There's a whole blueprint to their curriculum and it must be working. When I was there even their new guys were pretty good. I'm at a new place now that I left Kingston and it's cool but I liked this place best.

                        http://www.martialartsaxis.com


                        Pantenaude Kung Fu

                        They teach mix of kung fu and sanshou.. Bones Jones is probably the best known sanshou fighter right now. I think they have weapon classes too. I didn't train there but talking to people made the school sound pretty cool.

                        http://www.fangsendo.com/


                        Martial Arts Planet

                        I was only in kingston for 5 months and went here first. Everyone seemed really nice but in my research and talking to people I got a mixed bag of responses from people training there. More then one described it as the people eating corporate mcdojo of town. One of my friends actually trained there the head instructor dislocated his shoulder doing a move on him. He didn't get past month 2. Thats also part of why I didn't choose this school. Good people, nice looking school. Just too much sketchy stuff & drama discovered once I did some investigating.

                        http://www.martailartsplanet.ca



                        Check the sites & choose for yourself.
                        Welcome to Bullshido.

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                          #13
                          Hey bro,

                          Thanks for the heads up info. I was just doing some surfing and this thread came up.. I know it was outdated but I felt, since I'd just been in Kingston I should update the people on the who, what, where & why's of Kingston's Mixed Martial Arts scene.

                          Cheers!

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                            #14
                            I'm teaching MMA out of Martial Arts PLanet now since I closed down Gladiator's. Your assessment of MArtial Arts Axis is completely wrong; Daryl Urbanski is a fraud and a scam artist with an ego that would shame Napolean. Just listen to the bullshit he spews all over youtube about how amazing he is and you'll get the picture. He is definitely NOT the go to guy for BJJ in Kingston Ontario.

                            Any drama you find at Martial Arts Planet is remnants of the old owners pet students who are too full of themselves and stupid to realize the change in ownership to Chris Wellstood is a major step up for them. Chris has a good reputation with Leo Santos, Wendell Alexander, Wagney Fabiano, etc. His credentials are real and he's brought the level of the skill level at MAP way up by bringing in the right people to teach classes. I've seen quite a few clubs change hands and it's always the same thing regarding politics with the old guard students whining and complaining about the club changing hands. In my opinion, Chris is doing a good job of balancing between the average Joe who just wants to train for fun and the more competitive people who take it seriously.

                            If you're going to right reviews of schools; at least have an understanding of what the hell your talking about. This site needs to be taken with a grain of salt after reading some of the reviews of the local scene.

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                              #15
                              If the understanding is anything like your butchering of the English language it is all good.

                              Now, if he is a fraud get the proof or get banned.

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