Southend-on-Sea, England: Kung Fu master Tony Anthony and Avanti Ministries

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He might be a so called devout Christian but his actions speak otherwise. He is still a liar

He's not any kind of Christian. I've seen a dozen charlatans just like that one. He's there to pass the collection plate and sell worthless junk to the rubes.

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He might be a so called devout Christian but his actions speak otherwise. He is still a liar

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This idiot is still at it.

https://www.greatcommissionsociety.o...e/biographies/

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Mr. Anthony Anthony? Great name he has.

He chose that himself.

Have a read through the full investigation by the EA including his evidence which is now online to find out his other names:

https://www.docdroid.net/KALs35J/rep...-copy.pdf.html

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Mr. Anthony Anthony? Great name he has.

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Yes I spoke directly to the Shaolin Kung Fu instructor TA accused of being his student.

He was born in China and had only been in the UK for 11yrs.

He grew up and learned his Kung Fu in China.

For the record NOBODY and that is absolutely NOBODY since the 9yrs this thread has been going has ever found anybody related to Kung Fu who knows or has heard of TA despite having photos of him aged from toddler to adult.

Not one person EVER.

Thanks - that pretty much confirms what I thought. Looks like more lies from Tony Anthony.....

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So Anthony claims to have learnt Kung Fu in China, yet we have a "student" of his at a London school with him watching. I noted on the "Sake of the Gospel" website it mentions that he has a student - were you able to identify who Anthony claimed was his student? (I'm assuming the first time he/she heard of it was when Anthony rocked up).

Yes I spoke directly to the Shaolin Kung Fu instructor TA accused of being his student.

He was born in China and had only been in the UK for 11yrs.

He grew up and learned his Kung Fu in China.

For the record NOBODY and that is absolutely NOBODY since the 9yrs this thread has been going has ever found anybody related to Kung Fu who knows or has heard of TA despite having photos of him aged from toddler to adult.

Not one person EVER.

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So Anthony claims to have learnt Kung Fu in China, yet we have a "student" of his at a London school with him watching. I noted on the "Sake of the Gospel" website it mentions that he has a student - were you able to identify who Anthony claimed was his student? (I'm assuming the first time he/she heard of it was when Anthony rocked up).

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Wow - talk about shady practice. Just to check - (I can't spend a lot of time looking at the video whilst at work) - is this a Chinese school or UK based?

UK based , North London in fact.

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In this case to be fair in my personal opinion Ian Bruce and his crew are just more victims of TA's bullshit as opposed to being part of the con itself.

Another interesting fact about the Forethesakeofthegospel website is that on the Q&A page on section 3 "Was Tony Anthony a 3 time World Champion?" there is a link to a video titled "Tony watching a class taught by one of his students" .
Well I visited this school a few years ago and asked them about this video.
They informed me that they had been contacted by IIRC Angela Little but id have to check to be sure but regardless it was somebody on behalf of TA stating that they were launching a book about Kung Fu and would they be able to film a class to help promote the book" They agreed and along came TA with a pile of books and a cameraman.
They filmed for a little while and then TA gave out some of his books to the students then left.
A few days later a few of the students came in to the school upset at the anti kung fu sentiment in the book.
They had never heard of TA before let alone been taught by him and were FUMING about his misrepresentation of the video and the way he had gone about obtaining it.
Im sure TA will spin his yarns about this "oh they are just unhappy because I dont do Kung Fu anymore" well if you are one of TA's current minions I urge you to contact the school (I have the details just PM me) they are very welcoming and exactly what you would expect a legit Kung Fu school to be like.
Meet with them and compare his story to theirs and see what you think.

I absolutely gaurente you that TA would never agree to meet them to discuss this 1000000000% NEVER.
Despite having this faith in God to protect him and his 3 x World champion level Kung Fu.
Ask yourself why that could be given that he already went there to film this video with his books?
Better yet ask him and watch his eyes and body language squirm as his lies come out.

Wow - talk about shady practice. Just to check - (I can't spend a lot of time looking at the video whilst at work) - is this a Chinese school or UK based?

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This seems to be what I heard described on this site as a "jerk circle". The whole thing smacks of nepotism.

I've just had a look at the website, it doesn't appear that the group is currently doing a great deal. Not surprising considering the reputation that Anthony has

In this case to be fair in my personal opinion Ian Bruce and his crew are just more victims of TA's bullshit as opposed to being part of the con itself.

Another interesting fact about the Forethesakeofthegospel website is that on the Q&A page on section 3 "Was Tony Anthony a 3 time World Champion?" there is a link to a video titled "Tony watching a class taught by one of his students" .
Well I visited this school a few years ago and asked them about this video.
They informed me that they had been contacted by IIRC Angela Little but id have to check to be sure but regardless it was somebody on behalf of TA stating that they were launching a book about Kung Fu and would they be able to film a class to help promote the book" They agreed and along came TA with a pile of books and a cameraman.
They filmed for a little while and then TA gave out some of his books to the students then left.
A few days later a few of the students came in to the school upset at the anti kung fu sentiment in the book.
They had never heard of TA before let alone been taught by him and were FUMING about his misrepresentation of the video and the way he had gone about obtaining it.
Im sure TA will spin his yarns about this "oh they are just unhappy because I dont do Kung Fu anymore" well if you are one of TA's current minions I urge you to contact the school (I have the details just PM me) they are very welcoming and exactly what you would expect a legit Kung Fu school to be like.
Meet with them and compare his story to theirs and see what you think.

I absolutely gaurente you that TA would never agree to meet them to discuss this 1000000000% NEVER.
Despite having this faith in God to protect him and his 3 x World champion level Kung Fu.
Ask yourself why that could be given that he already went there to film this video with his books?
Better yet ask him and watch his eyes and body language squirm as his lies come out.

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What is almost comical about this is that the people on this site are independent and have investigated his claims. The evangelical alliance also instructed Mr John Langlois OBE former senior partner of the largest law firm in Channel islands ( https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-langlois-obe-86510126 ) to investigate his claims and pretty much everybody "independent" came to the same conclusion.

BUT this website defending TA by a Mr Ian Bruce http://www.forthesakeofthegospel.co.uk/ claims to have carried out an investigation in "an independent way" whatever that means despite already establishing an existing relationship with TA that extends to his daughter working voluntarily for TA's Avanti Ministries.

Hardly a surprise then that they are now working for/running a new organisation together.

http://www.greatcommissionsociety.or...s/biographies/

Impartiality how does it work?

This seems to be what I heard described on this site as a "jerk circle". The whole thing smacks of nepotism.

I've just had a look at the website, it doesn't appear that the group is currently doing a great deal. Not surprising considering the reputation that Anthony has

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What is almost comical about this is that the people on this site are independent and have investigated his claims. The evangelical alliance also instructed Mr John Langlois OBE former senior partner of the largest law firm in Channel islands ( https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-langlois-obe-86510126 ) to investigate his claims and pretty much everybody "independent" came to the same conclusion.

BUT this website defending TA by a Mr Ian Bruce http://www.forthesakeofthegospel.co.uk/ claims to have carried out an investigation in "an independent way" whatever that means despite already establishing an existing relationship with TA that extends to his daughter working voluntarily for TA's Avanti Ministries.

Hardly a surprise then that they are now working for/running a new organisation together.

http://www.greatcommissionsociety.or...s/biographies/

Impartiality how does it work?

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The unedited report/investigation by the Evangelical Alliance has found its way online.

Very interesting reading , especially Avanti's responses.

http://docdro.id/KALs35J

Thanks for posting that - I've just quickly scanned it - there seems to be huge amounts of evasion by Anthony to some key questions. A very interesting read. I'm always amazed that people keep lying when the facts completely contradict them

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The unedited report/investigation by the Evangelical Alliance has found its way online.

Very interesting reading , especially Avanti's responses.

http://docdro.id/KALs35J