Southend-on-Sea, England: Kung Fu master Tony Anthony and Avanti Ministries

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I think Michael Wright is a representative of the british high council and also a christian. He visits the prisoners as it is his job and as he is a nice guy he befriends them and as he gets to know them talks about his life which involves christ. Im a bit to tired to compose the correct email to find out know but if nobody else has by saturday morning (im out of the office tommorrow) then i will do so and find out.

Crackfox, i know the truth can hurt sometimes but its not my fault its King Henry VIII

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No it isn't.

It's been in union with England since Henry VIII, meaning it shares the same monarch, and part of the United Kingdom since 1800, but it remains a distinct nation.

Not something i have either the knowledge or inclanation to debate.
My point was that somebody originally from northern ireland could now be representing the british high council in another country as easily as somebody who was originally from england.

[stephenprunetti]

Michael Wright Confusion

Just spoke to a bloke at the British High Commision in Cyprus. The Mike Wright that works there has only been there a couple of years, is an Englishman, and doesn't do prison visits. It's not the same man.

By the way, let's keep the debate about Northern Ireland for another website.

[stubbe78]

Tony and his family(sorry, I just had to, just a joke naturally, it is not Tony and his family, just to avoid any misunderstandings :-D )

[stephenprunetti]

Hi all.

Received nothing at all back from various enquiries made about Ashraf Tai/Tae in Pakistan.

Just 'face-booked' (i swore i'd never sign up to facebook!) Yvonne Ridley, to ask her if she has any idea how to get in touch with Ian Davison. I emailed her web-site days ago, but never got a reply.

I've been trying to get in touch with Michael Wright through George Verwer, the American evangelist that Malcolm Down says he used as a character reference for Tony. No answer at any of his 3 phone numbers, as yet.

But, hey-ho, what did Tony Anthony say at the end of his less than useless email? 'Keep on keeping on.'

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http://www.joycemeyer.org/OurMinistr...cles/art21.htm

Not even thats his own.

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Tony Anthony's reply answers precisely nothing. I think you give him far too much credit Terraform, by saying his response is 'well crafted.' Looks very much to me like a bullshitter trying to bullshit his way out of the tricky situation he has found himself in. We could go on like this for a very long time.

Anthony is on video saying he has killed many times. He writes about one of these killings in his book. This is no small thing.

He claims to have served two prison sentences. One in Cyprus for breaking into hotel rooms and one in England in connection with killing that lady on her bike. But apparently not for any of his many killings.

If, as he claims, he has killed many times, why does he not go to the authorities and make a full statement about the murders he claims to have committed in the past? He's 'seen the light' now, and found Jesus. Maybe i'm wrong, but isn't that what a good christian would do?

On one of the videos I linked to he actually says something like "I should have gone to prison for much longer"

While I think he is bullshitting about his life story we have to at least consider the possibility that he has actually killed people, genuinely believes that he should have spent much longer in jail than he did, and that his videos and presentations are a (possibly unconscious) form of communication aimed at ensuring that he serves the time he deserves.

Stranger things have happened.

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I agree in part. I also think that it is possible that he could be a christian and genuinely believe in christ, however founding your ministry on lies is damaging to the gospel.
The time for compassion and forgiveness will be when the truth is confirmed.

[stephenprunetti]

Email from Tony Anthony 20/10/09

Hi Stephen

Greetings to you in the name of our wonderful Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

I am aware of the numerous phone calls and emails that you have made to Malcolm Down, Paula Renouf, Angela Little and to my office. All of these people (except for Faye in my office) have told me that they felt you actively expressed feelings of dislike and hostility - and i very much want you to know that i hold no hard feelings towards you at all.

I don't know if it is simply because of the way things were worded or written in my book that make you feel this way - but i am truly sorry if my book has caused you to feel so much antagonism. This sincerely was not the intention at all in writing it.

You have asked questions that i have already given you answers for in the past -and going by your questions, it seems that either you have misunderstood my story or i have wrongly communicated it. I am very willing to consider changing (re-wording) any wording that is causing you specific offence in the book - but to do this i suspect that we will need to start a new page together and discuss in a respectful way these changes.

I look forward to hearing from you about this.

God bless you.

Keep on keeping on...

Tony Anthony
Evangelist

[stephenprunetti]

My reply 20/10/09

Hi Tony,

Thanks for the reply.

Unfortunately, you failed to answer my question, so i'll ask it again in the hope that your next email might clarify things a little.

An admission of murder is a serious matter. Have you ever been held accountable for any of the murders that you freely admit to, both on your youtube videos, and within the pages of your book?

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely

Stephen Prunetti

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Tony replies 20/10/09

Hi Stephen

Greetings to you in the name of our wonderful Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

As mentioned in previous communicaion, answers to frequently asked questions will be added to the Avanti Ministries website within the next month or so. Please see the following link that has already been set up for to (sic) facilitate this: http://www.avantiministries.com/faq.php. We value your patience as this is currently under construction. We anticipate completion before the end of November 2009.

In the meantime, please take the time to view the following link: http://www.avantiministries.com/highspeed_video.html

God bless you.

Keep on keeping on...

Tony Anthony
Evangelist

[stubbe78]

Whether he lies or not, we will never find out for sure by asking him

[stephenprunetti]

So there you have it. I hope my correspondence with Tony has made everything quite clear.

I ask him a direct question about the murders he claims to have committed, and he sends me a link to a video about the bible!

Jesus wept.

[stubbe78]

Yeah, but it's no evidence, but great effort nonetheless

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It is evidence that he is unwilling to answer the question. It is evidence that he is evasive. If you take out the lines :
"Greetings to you in the name of our wonderful Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ."
and the line:
"God bless you."

Hes basically saying "F**K you and your questions i aint sayin shit!, i need more time on this one goddamnit"