"Master Jules" CQB Bullshido in New York?

[knifehand1]

Jules, I don't want to be drawn into "investigating" you because that is rather gay. Martial Arts should be about fighting and that's that. You offered people to test you and I think they should accept, because what you claim does seem to be quite a lot of bollocks, so seeing if you can walk the walk aswell as talk the talk is what should be important here.

The most glaring thing though is that you CLAIM to have created CQB as a style when that term has existed for years as a military term. You did NOT creat the term CQB. And even if you created a style that is also called CQB, who can grade you to 5th Dan if YOU created the style? your Karate master can't because he is not qualified in the style you created. Being a 5th Dan in Karate does not make you an automatic 5th Dan in CQB or whatever style you make. I don't know anything about Akido or the secret service stuff so I'm not going to comment further on that. It just sounds a bit far fetched to me.

However, like I said, the fact you've agreed to step up and prove your ability with your actions is respectable. It seems most people on here are happy talking and preaching about martial arts but wont get their hands dirty. Surely some Bullshido forumites are in New York?

For the record, I never claimed to invent the CQB systemed that was named by the military and has been in use for quite a long time. In searching for a name for my system, I decided on CQB, based on the way the system operates, and the fact that it is all about very in close fighting. As far as the 5th Dan rank, as explained earlier (maybe you just missed that post) When I took my 5th Dan test in Goju, and then demo'd my CQB system, Master Kirk granted me 5th Dan rank, because he felt that I deserved it. Listing him as "co-founder" of the CQB system was my way of showing him courtesy and respect for all that he had taught me over the years, without his teachings, I wouldnt have obtained the knowledge to create the CQB system. Im sorry if the other things seem "far fetched" to you, but they happened, and I am not going to deny a truth. Maybe your "researchers" sre having a hard time finding this info because of the serious security protocols put inot effect after 9/11....I dont know....but I DO know, that I was there, and as I said....they can try, but they will never be able to prove that the truth was a lie.

[Lumberjack]

When you contact th White Plains Police Dept....get it straight.....the award was for the year 2003, and given in 2004, and my name is JULIAN HOENIG......just so you have your facts straight.....Ive also submitted the article dates to another poster for verification......and so far, Lumberjack is right.....if this place is about "put up or shut op"....well...I "Put up".....meaning.....you all now know my name, where I work, and have been invited to come and "test me".....so far....nobody....NOBODY has put up.....kinda seems like he's right.....youre probably just a bunch of "wannabes" sitting behind the anonimity of a keyboard where its nice and safe......step out into the real world and lets see whatchya got......Ive always said "the belt just holds up your pants....get on the mat and lets see what you got".....so far.....not one of you has "stepped up to the plate"....so much for your "put up or shut up"

Jules mate. Apologies for dissing you at first ... I got the wrong end of the stick and you've proven yourself by coming on here and telling them to "put up or shut up". I tried backing you up on here but these cock sucking nerds moved my posts.

Fuck these retards.

[Gezere]

Get a room you two.

Again for the record if Jules ever wants to come down here I will be more than happy to let him put up all he wants. Like I said there is absolutely nothing in it for me the other way around.

[FickleFingerOfFate]

Lumberjack has been exposed as a forum troll.

He only came in here to stir up shit.

He had no vested interest but to inflame the situation.

[Gezere]

Lumberjack has been exposed as a forum troll.

He only came in here to stir up shit.

He had no vested interest but to inflame the situation.

Thats obvious now. He starts things out one way the switches gears then acts like a dick. I was hoping the idiots would cutdown when school started but oh well.:sad8:

[It is Fake]

You probably missed the whole ACA fiasco. They have tried 3 times now to screw up bullshido and they keep getting caught.

This is probably there best effort so far. They finally found a guy ready to fight us because of lumberjack.

Hopefully, knifehand will see through the ruse but, I doubt it.

[Gezere]

For the record, I never claimed to invent the CQB systemed that was named by the military and has been in use for quite a long time. In searching for a name for my system, I decided on CQB, based on the way the system operates, and the fact that it is all about very in close fighting. As far as the 5th Dan rank, as explained earlier (maybe you just missed that post) When I took my 5th Dan test in Goju, and then demo'd my CQB system, Master Kirk granted me 5th Dan rank, because he felt that I deserved it. Listing him as "co-founder" of the CQB system was my way of showing him courtesy and respect for all that he had taught me over the years, without his teachings, I wouldnt have obtained the knowledge to create the CQB system. Im sorry if the other things seem "far fetched" to you, but they happened, and I am not going to deny a truth. Maybe your "researchers" sre having a hard time finding this info because of the serious security protocols put inot effect after 9/11....I dont know....but I DO know, that I was there, and as I said....they can try, but they will never be able to prove that the truth was a lie.

Fine thats your prattle for being a 5th dan in a system you created. Silly but if thats why you did it then fine.

Now WHO did you work WITH in the SS? I will gladly verify this and will return the answer one wasy or another. If it true you never had anything to worry about.

BTW I will like to point out how right I was. For someone who kept saying they didn't care what we think you keep coming back here to defend yourself.

[Gezere]

You probably missed the whole ACA fiasco. They have tried 3 times now to screw up bullshido and they keep getting caught.

This is probably there best effort so far. They finally found a guy ready to fight us because of lumberjack.

Hopefully, knifehand will see through the ruse but, I doubt it.

Probably not. He's going the "pounding chest tough guy" route like JFS and we all know what happened to him. It would be best if Jules cut the bravado BS and just give the information. If he wants to go to a Throwdown fine then we can address that issue but thats not what we're dealing with now.

[It is Fake]

Probably not. He's going the "pounding chest tough guy" route like JFS and we all know what happened to him. It would be best if Jules cut the bravado BS and just give the information. If he wants to go to a Throwdown fine then we can address that issue but thats not what we're dealing with now.

I agree.

We have all been trying to get that across. The other derail thread is what led to the current predicament.

[Snake Plissken]

When you contact th White Plains Police Dept....get it straight.....the award was for the year 2003, and given in 2004, and my name is JULIAN HOENIG......just so you have your facts straight.....Ive also submitted the article dates to another poster for verification......and so far, Lumberjack is right.....if this place is about "put up or shut op"....well...I "Put up".....meaning.....you all now know my name, where I work, and have been invited to come and "test me".....so far....nobody....NOBODY has put up.....kinda seems like he's right.....youre probably just a bunch of "wannabes" sitting behind the anonimity of a keyboard where its nice and safe......step out into the real world and lets see whatchya got......Ive always said "the belt just holds up your pants....get on the mat and lets see what you got".....so far.....not one of you has "stepped up to the plate"....so much for your "put up or shut up"

Jules, thank you for kindly addressing the error in your name. I hadn't been able to find anything regarding the incident in either the White Plains nor the New Rochelle newspapers concerning it. I shall do my best to get your name correct. And, really, nobody is going to show up to your work, much like I would assume your teacher wouldn't want you showing up to someone else's work. No person on this site is wanting anything more then the truthful verification of your belt status as you are the person who put it out there. It's not as if someone from this board was rooting through your rubbish bin....you put this stuff out there and now you're pissed because someone is asking you about it?

Oh, and btw" Aardvarks".....I DO enjoy lots of MySpace ass.....judging by your picture all you probably enjoy is your right hand (or left if you go that way)

Actually, that's not me....it's Alan Rickman who gets more ass then you and I combined.
I am quite certain the main reason you have your site is to pull ass, at least you admitted to that, the most shallow of intentions. Granted there is nothing wrong with that, with the exception of a forty-something year old man frequenting a site designed for the young, just don't get pissed when someone doesn't buy your story en toto. You can snow an uninformed MySpace chick, fine. But when someone who has a modicum of intellegence calls you on it, instead of responding reasonably you respond with "The Last Dragon" platitudes.

The manner in which you have chosen to handle things is eroding what little credibility you had with the members of this site.
I realize you don't care, which again is fine, just realize that your martial arts peer see through the shroud of BS.

Kindly do a search for Sifu Milt Wallace, whom you remind me of. He had a MySpace to pull ass and made various and sundry claims. When ask of them, he responded in much the same manner.

[Uri Shatil]

Regarding this "let's just fight" attitude held by Lumberjack and Mr. Hoenigm, let me give you one of my signature (but in this case, slightly unrealistic) scenarios.

There's this kid, named Frank, who lives in a bad neighborhood. Since he was nine, he'd been getting into fights constantly, which he almost invariably won. He even visited a karate studio, but never earned a high belt. He was incredibly talented in karate. He continued to get in fights, and now won every single one of them. He got a scholarship and went to college, and continued to train karate. However, he never took the motive of doing anything but attending class two to three times a week. He continued to move, and always joined a karate studio, and trained for twelve years. He also learned boxing, kickboxing, wrestling, and other arts. He was a great fighter, who could even beat and experienced cage fighter. One day, he decides to teach to gain some extra money. However, he holds no formal rank. So he claims 4th dan in shotokan, as well as 2nd dan in kyokoshinkai. If the average person, even the average martial artist, were to challenge him, they would lose. Does that make his claims any more true? No. A fight will prove nothing.

I can say nothing for lumberjack. I doubt he is what you're saying he is, but that's just me.

Furthermore, contrary to what some people said about me (read my post and contrast it with theirs, I'm too lazy to do it myself), I do not yet believe everything Mr. Hoenig has said. But his presence is very helpful, and has helped confirm several things that were previously uncomfirmed.

Mr. Hoenig, we are not trying to prove you wrong. When one of us does an internet search, or sends and e-mail, or calls someone, or does whatever it is he or she doing in that particular instance, the only purpose is to confirm what you have said. If you are telling the truth, you have nothing to fear. But if you pay a quick visit to bullshido.com, you'll see that people in the past have blatantly lied, and we do this with everyone.

Furthermore, we would not accuse you of forgin a certificate or diploma. Our goal is NOT to prove that you are a liar, it is in fact to learn whether or not you are a liar. If you're proven not to be, even the biggest asshole on this forum will swallow their pride and accept it.

I have sent some e-mails trying to confirm various statements of yours. Your cooperation is much appreciated, Mr. Hoenig.

And I was wondering, as a sidenote. if somebody is found to be lying, how long does it take for them to get on bullshido.com? And if somebody isn't lying, do they get an entry?

[knifehand1]

The manner in which you have chosen to handle things is eroding what little credibility you had with the members of this site.
I realize you don't care, which again is fine, just realize that your martial arts peer see through the shroud of BS.

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Do you REALLY think I care what kind of credibility I had/have with the members of THIS site ?........I mean seriously......look at you......youre all (mostly) a joke, and if you think, even for 1 second that I would consider you and most of those here to be my "martial arts peers".....you are clearly hallucinating. Youve gotten all the information youre gonna get from me....all fact....now go and do your "research" all you want....like I said before....youre wasting your time trying to prove that a fact is fiction....so go ahead and keep wasting your time....I really dont care anymore....whst important to ME, is the fact that MY martial arts peers, DO know the facts are true, they have viewed this thread and think that most of you are just a bunch of idiots (their choice of words).

Its also amazing what kind of people you are.....at the beginning of the day, despite all the crap that has been flying around here, I told everyone that it was the 1 year anniversary of Master Kirks death, and was curious to see if anyone...ANYONE would have a single NICE thing to say about that.....not even one single post....nothing in regards to him out of respect......and you think I have to prove something to you.....FUCK YOU !

[knifehand1]

Regarding this "let's just fight" attitude held by Lumberjack and Mr. Hoenigm, let me give you one of my signature (but in this case, slightly unrealistic) scenarios.

There's this kid, named Frank, who lives in a bad neighborhood. Since he was nine, he'd been getting into fights constantly, which he almost invariably won. He even visited a karate studio, but never earned a high belt. He was incredibly talented in karate. He continued to get in fights, and now won every single one of them. He got a scholarship and went to college, and continued to train karate. However, he never took the motive of doing anything but attending class two to three times a week. He continued to move, and always joined a karate studio, and trained for twelve years. He also learned boxing, kickboxing, wrestling, and other arts. He was a great fighter, who could even beat and experienced cage fighter. One day, he decides to teach to gain some extra money. However, he holds no formal rank. So he claims 4th dan in shotokan, as well as 2nd dan in kyokoshinkai. If the average person, even the average martial artist, were to challenge him, they would lose. Does that make his claims any more true? No. A fight will prove nothing.

I can say nothing for lumberjack. I doubt he is what you're saying he is, but that's just me.

Furthermore, contrary to what some people said about me (read my post and contrast it with theirs, I'm too lazy to do it myself), I do not yet believe everything Mr. Hoenig has said. But his presence is very helpful, and has helped confirm several things that were previously uncomfirmed.

Mr. Hoenig, we are not trying to prove you wrong. When one of us does an internet search, or sends and e-mail, or calls someone, or does whatever it is he or she doing in that particular instance, the only purpose is to confirm what you have said. If you are telling the truth, you have nothing to fear. But if you pay a quick visit to bullshido.com, you'll see that people in the past have blatantly lied, and we do this with everyone.

Furthermore, we would not accuse you of forgin a certificate or diploma. Our goal is NOT to prove that you are a liar, it is in fact to learn whether or not you are a liar. If you're proven not to be, even the biggest asshole on this forum will swallow their pride and accept it.

I have sent some e-mails trying to confirm various statements of yours. Your cooperation is much appreciated, Mr. Hoenig.

And I was wondering, as a sidenote. if somebody is found to be lying, how long does it take for them to get on bullshido.com? And if somebody isn't lying, do they get an entry?

Who have you sent emails to ?.....maybe can give you more names to add to your list to finnally see the truth about me, that I am NOT making any false claims, and these are my legitimate ranks

[knifehand1]

PS.....as well as everything else I said.

I dont know what more you people want from me....Ive given dates of newspaper articles, the actual, Action Martial art magazine edition# as well as the page #.......I give up with you people.....

[knifehand1]

I just dont get "the inquisition"......someone accomplishes something that is beyond other peoples abilities or comprehension and all of a sudden I become "suspect" of being a fraud....what kind of shit is that ??? I offered to "step up"...not one taker.....except the loudmouth from georgia, Superfly....gee....thats convenient.....theres a whole lotta names that list them selves in NY/NYC.....not ONE taker......I think theyre all just a bunch of keyboard warriors in their mommys basement......and to those "older ones" who really are accomplished martial artists....what the hell are you doing HERE ?????? Get on a REAL forum and spread some of your knowledge around to help the up and coming.....all I see here is a bunch of people who want to tear down someones reputation under the flag of "doing good"......You CANT expose me as a fraud for the simple reason that I am NOT.