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    Val Riazanov KGB super soldier

    Any one heard of this guy?

    http://www.valriazanov.com/aboutval.html

    He claims to be 6th dan in Judo, Master of sport in combat sambo, instructor of systema and a heavy weight champion of great britain.

    Here is some footage of him doing what mainly looks like systema punching.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3YjU97qS6s

    #2
    The striking sort of reminds me of a friend who does what I think is Systema (although he often refers to it as "Russian stuff"). He throws a punch, but relaxes his arm enough so that he uses the weight of his arm as well as the force generated with his legs, hips, etc. It adds a good amount of power. My only critique is that the arm may become easier to grab, since laxing it makes it harder to retract after impact.

    Has anyone else heard of this way of striking?

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      #3
      A guy I train with in California makes business trips to London and has had several opportunities to train with him. He tells me he is very good and hits very hard. I've seen footage of him wrestling and would not find it hard to believe his credentials in Judo and Sambo.

      Jeff

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        #4
        edit - mistaken identity (by me)

        and the striking described, is common in RMA
        Last edited by HANKtheTANK; 6/09/2007 6:06pm, .

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          #5
          shit never mind! Didn't watch the vid til after i posted. I mixed up the names....he wasnt the one i saw at the recent seminar
          Last edited by HANKtheTANK; 6/09/2007 6:09pm, .

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            #6
            So how come someone with a solid background in Judo and Sambo (NON BULLSHIT MARTIAL ARTS) switches to Systema if it is all smoke and mirrors?

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              #7
              Just found this showing his Sambo, which looks very crisp.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0VorQ7OOQ8

              So then I started to think that maybe he has just taken the usful stuff and discarded all the non-contact stuff. Then I find this.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOIUAGuD4gU

              So again it comes down to why does someone with his credentials choose to study systema?

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                #8
                maddog, you've been on the systema topic for quite some time now

                Its an interesting question. Yet probably comes with an answer that not many on this forum would accept.

                I'd say, if you've been interested for this long, and see some things in the art u like, then just dive into it and take an intro class, ask your questions there, and see what u can take away from it

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                  #9
                  I might check out a lesson. It does seem an art of contradictions.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by maddog
                    I might check out a lesson. It does seem an art of contradictions.
                    I have a thick streak of "show me," and after attending a Systema seminar I found that there's some value in what they do.

                    That being said, you need to have a very open mind when attending the class. Do not enter in with preconceived notions on what a class should look like, what does or does not equal effective, etc. They did a LOT of drills that didn't have immediately evident end goals, but after doing some thinking, some asking, etc., there was value (in my mind, anyway) to what they were going toward.

                    Also, a lot of the explanation isn't necessarily supposed to be taken as gospel/scientific explanation/etc. I got a strong feeling for the allegory - this "feels" like that, and so forth...

                    Good luck.

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                      #11
                      I'll be looking forward to hearing about your experience as u seem to have a an open mind with a healthy sense of skepticism

                      I just hope u find yourself a qualified school/instructor out there (lemme know who u find in your area)

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by maddog
                        Just found this showing his Sambo, which looks very crisp.

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0VorQ7OOQ8

                        So then I started to think that maybe he has just taken the usful stuff and discarded all the non-contact stuff. Then I find this.

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOIUAGuD4gU

                        So again it comes down to why does someone with his credentials choose to study systema?
                        Money???

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by D Dempsey
                          Money???
                          I highly doubt systema demands a higher fee than his accolades in Sambo or Judo would

                          plus, if it were about money, we'd have official uniforms and many pretty colored belt rankings. Both of which are non-existent in systema

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                            #14
                            It was just a guess. Besides don't judo and sambo have very large followings in Europe? Maybe he wanted to separate himself from the rest of the coaches. Again this is all speculation and I base it on absolutely nothing.

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                              #15
                              from what i've seen him demonstrate on vids, i'd say he'd do very well solely on the basis of teaching his judo and/or sambo alone

                              knowing nothing of how he runs his school, i would imagine tho that he has separate classes for sambo and judo, especially since he's seen wearing his gi in various demos of judo throws

                              but whatever, this lends nothing to answer the original question of why a guy of his creds would add systema to his tool box. It'd be interesting to get an answer on this, since he seems to have quite a practical journey through MA's in general

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