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    Karate for Christ!

    http://www.karateforchrist.net/

    Read this and try not to laugh:
    "Head Instructor of Longwood College branch Dong's Studio TKD"
    (from his credientials page)

    & this guy seems to be in Juko Kai too ;)

    #2
    alright, enough of the Christianity and martial arts thread already....

    someone find some "We train you in Martial arts with PCP" sites

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      #3
      I looked at the site - as long as he practices what he is preaching -I see nothing wrong with it.

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        #4
        I looked at the site - as long as he practices what he is preaching -I see nothing wrong with it.
        Agreed. The only thing that's troubling is that they seem to advance ranks awfully quick. One of the senior instructor's "was promoted to First Degree Black Belt in September 2000 and currently holds a Third Degree Black Belt awarded in May 2003." I guess they pick up another degree every year - year and a half?

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          #5
          Yeah, Pizdoff is right, how many topics have we on this?

          Though, I did find this funny from the Tai Chi page "We use quiet praise and worship music instead of the traditional flute and sitar music. Students learn the traditional art divested of its historically pagan underpinnings." So you strip of it's history and culture and it's still considered traditional?

          The site says the head instructor has a black blet in several systems...haha, I always get a kick out of those guys.

          Kungfoolss, Joke of the theory-based stylists, Most laughed at man at Bullshido.com, creator of the Kungfoolss Darwinian Awards that nobody cares for, and the Preeminent Force in the martial arts political arena in his own head.
          Apu: "Oh! You have just been Apu'd!"

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            #6
            I personally don't like the preaching aspect, but you are naturally entitled to your opinions, I just post sites I find interesting in one way or another. Christian Tai Chi sounds quite stupid IMHO...

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              #7
              i do agree with what is posted here


              but i would steer far from this school

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              Edited by - pizdoff on August 19 2003 15:11:51
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                #8
                I personally don't like the preaching aspect, but you are naturally entitled to your opinions, I just post sites I find interesting in one way or another. Christian Tai Chi sounds quite stupid IMHO...
                I wouldn't want to be preached to during a MA class either and would never take a classes at a place named anything like "Karate for Christ." The students know what they are getting into, though. (Their message and intentions are very overt. The website makes it clear that this is a non-profit Christian ministry. If you send your kid there for Karate lesson you know he is going to hear some preaching.) I think people who are training there are probably attending classes as much for the "Christian fellowship" and bible study as they are for the MA training and physical aspects. Seems like it's more of a Christian youth group than your typical Karate school.

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                  #9
                  Well, I guess the question is "If this was a normal martial arts school that was all keen on Jesus would it still be just as hoaky?"

                  One use to go to kung fu in this strip mall that also had 2 karate schools associated with 2 different churches on opposite ends of the strip mall, one was a Universal Kempo school and the other was an Escrima/Muay Thai school. The UK school actually started to make itself a different entity from the church before my school moved locations, and the Escrima/Muay Thai school didn't even look like a christian MA school, no crosses on the wall, no lame painting of Jesus, the only thing was their page that had the infamouse Philipians passage.

                  Kungfoolss, Joke of the theory-based stylists, Most laughed at man at Bullshido.com, creator of the Kungfoolss Darwinian Awards that nobody cares for, and the Preeminent Force in the martial arts political arena in his own head.
                  Apu: "Oh! You have just been Apu'd!"

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                    #10
                    I still think the school is akin to Mcdojo because the instructors seem to be rocketing up the belt ranks (that in and of it self makes it a place I wouldn't attend) but I appreciate the fact that they are up front about their emphasis on religion and the school's teaching objectives. If they want to provide a training environment that has crosses all over the place, prayer before and at the end of class etc..that's fine because they'll only attract practicing Christians or parents who want their kids involved in a religious based group/activity.

                    My stance would change completely if they were less obvious about their "mission," representing themselves as a normal school and trying to convert people during classes.

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                      #11
                      Karate for Christ...

                      Converting Christians into pussies since 1988.






                      Edited by - amp on August 19 2003 16:02:06

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                        #12
                        Notice how Dr Rod Sacharnoski who promoted the head instructor to 6th dan, is himself a 12th dan. Will dan inflation ever cease? this guy also lists a 1st dan in Ninjutsu, now how does that particular art combine with Christ?



                        Edited by - on August 19 2003 16:36:28

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                          #13
                          Well, Juko Kai's Ninjutsu representative John Willson is a 13th dan...

                          He appears to be a real Bujinkan instructor, though, from what I found in the net. Apparently Hatsumi has added ranks up to 15th.

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                            #14
                            Interesting thing I noticed was that under that karate section, they are doing "the traditional martial art: Chutoku Ryu Budo Karate-Do." Never heard of it personally.

                            Farther down it states "It (Chutoku Ryu) contains elements of historical Korean Tae Kwon Do, Okinawan Kempo and Shorin Ryu Karate, Japanese Shotokan Karate, Jujitsu, and Aikido, American Boxing, Chinese Boxing (Kung Fu) and Filipino Escrima, as well as a variety of traditional weapons."

                            Yep, that Chutoku Ryu sounds like a real old, traditional system to me!

                            BS!!!

                            He who dies with the most toys...still DIES!

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                              #15
                              Tallpaul, like I pointed out, in the head instructiors bio is claims he holds black belts in like several systems or somethng nuts like that. I guess it's traditional to earn as many black belts as possible.

                              Kungfoolss, Joke of the theory-based stylists, Most laughed at man at Bullshido.com, creator of the Kungfoolss Darwinian Awards that nobody cares for, and the Preeminent Force in the martial arts political arena in his own head.
                              Apu: "Oh! You have just been Apu'd!"

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