Choi Kwang Do: Outrageous claim on website

[RunningDog]

There's a new CKD school local to me. I stumbled on a thread on MAP about their new UK website, www.gbckd.com.

The 'about' page contains the following claim:

"Choi Kwang Do was developed by Grandmaster Kwang Jo Choi between 1978 and 1987 and has proven to be the most effective martial arts system in the world."


I'm considering paying them a visit and asking them to back up this claim in some way, and if they can't, to remove it from their website and literature.

I have a screengrab of the relevant page here

[Slipster]

Did they say where CKD has been proven?

[HearWa]

I see they're talking about all those "principles" again. I can guarantee you that when you visit and you ask for them to back it up they'll pull some BS like telling you, "Ok, I have a knife in my pocket," or telling you that on the streets they'll have friends there to help them beat you up. You know, a way to beat you without having any actual skill.

Good luck in whatever you try though.

EDIT: I hate it how "traditional MA" instructors think they're being clever when they come up with BS like that. It's not like you need CKD training to know enough to carry a knife or kick someone in the balls.

[Slipster]

Choi Kwang Do is not designed for competition and does not follow the intensity of sports training. The system is meant for all individuals who want to learn real-life, practical self-defense skills and achieve a greater level of health and well-being, not people solely interested in winning trophies. to conflict, practical solutions to cardiovascular improvement, and enjoyable methods of exercise.

Ahhhh, I see now...

[RunningDog]

"proven to be the most effective MA in the world" is a false claim, pure and simple, and I'd love to make them eat their words. But my legal-fu is weak.

[ironlurker]

Choi Kwang Do: Because Tae Kwon Do is Just Too Brutal

Nice find. They have a school in Dorking, I see. I visited the site:

Sports training has little to do with health
http://www.dorkingckd.com/choi-kwang-do.html

13. If accidental contact is made during training, students should stop and bow to one another as an apology, and for the other to show acceptance.
18. Always remember that what you are learning is a potentially deadly martial art.

http://www.dorkingckd.com/dorking-ck...etiquette.html


Best is the Close Range Defense Training
http://www.dorkingckd.com/choi-kwang...-training.html

I'd bet you cash this is a knife defense-


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Pressure Point or Reach Around? You tell me.

[LI GUY 1]

Just make sure you have a knife in your pocket too. When they pull that crap tell them you have yours and see what they say.

[Red Sauce]

Yes CKD seems to be all over the place, I think we should do a group visit.

[oni]

i still dont understand exactly how you can have a non contact martial art...

unless chi blasting is in the syllabus?

[nastyned]

i still dont understand exactly how you can have a non contact martial art...

unless chi blasting is in the syllabus?

They train on pads but when they spar they stop just short of actually hitting the other person.

[sempaiman]

They train on pads but when they spar they stop just short of actually hitting the other person.

Your new to the site, so we will be easy on you. It's a sarcastic questions. On this site we deal with reality. A martial art is about fighting so how can you fight with out fighting. Ah, one of Bruce Lee's riddles. Way with no-way, etc..........

[Shawarma]

They don't spar, far's I know. That's the most remarkable thing about it. Oh, and they also don't extend their legs fully when kicking, ever. Grandmaster Choi was brought up in TKD and nearly ruined his knees kicking to extension, so he removed the leg extension entirely.

That's what I've been told by Choiers.

[nastyned]

Your new to the site, so we will be easy on you. It's a sarcastic questions. On this site we deal with reality. A martial art is about fighting so how can you fight with out fighting. Ah, one of Bruce Lee's riddles. Way with no-way, etc..........

I've been lurking for a long while so flame away...


I am fully aware how pointless no contact 'fighting' is though. Which is why I do Thai Boxing.

[Kintanon]

They don't spar, far's I know. That's the most remarkable thing about it. Oh, and they also don't extend their legs fully when kicking, ever. Grandmaster Choi was brought up in TKD and nearly ruined his knees kicking to extension, so he removed the leg extension entirely.

That's what I've been told by Choiers.

There's some value in that. My little brother was in TKD with me for years and his knees are messed up so bad now that he pretty much only boxes. He's working on rebuilding them some so he can start throwing some low kicks and get into some more MT style stuff. But TKD round kicks and things like that he can't pull off any more. I managed to escape the knee damage because my favorite kick was the side kick, so I threw way fewer round kicks than he did.

Kintanon

[sempaiman]

I am fully aware how pointless no contact 'fighting' is though. Which is why I do Thai Boxing.

Well "no-contact fighting" is not "fighting". It's LARPing. You did well by switching to Muay Thai.