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    #31
    Originally posted by Tom Bone
    How is the way Larry trains any different or worse than other American Kenpo schools, or hell any other Ke?po school in general? From what I've seen it all looks the same, just different packaging.

    Well it does not look anything look Mike Picks kenpo, thats the guy who threw Larry out of the school, it soes not look anything like Paul Mills or Dennis Connasters Kenpo those guys have moved on.
    but if you compare Larry T kenpo to Huks Kenpo then you can see that it is Larry who is more advanced, this goes for comparing Huks to the Tracy,s as well it is Huk who had moved on.
    Kenpo from 1960 until now has changed hugely the package may look the same but the product has improved with every decade.Larry is just stuck in the 80s thats all, Huk is stuck in the 70s, Tracy in the 60s cabeesh!
    I know it would take alot of detail and time, but this really interests me. How do you describe one being more "advanced" or better for that matter? For example, Speakmans Evolution Kempo or Kempo 5.0 system was devised by combining the American Kenpo system with sport MMA techniques as by their resident cage fighter (who I can't seem to find a record of anywhere). I would consider that program more "up to date" than most other Kenpo.

    Could you give any specific points as to how one is more or less advanced than the others. I've only been doing Kempo since the late 90's and not in the AK system so I wouldn't be able to give any personal experience of those schools during those timeframes. But if you have personal experience to share, I'd love to hear about it.

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      #32
      I suppose it depends on what you want from your study, after all a punch is a punch and a kick is a kick, so a plateau is reached a different times for different people once again depending on what they want from what they are studying.

      If you want to use bouncers as you bench mark for what you would like to achieve from your studies fine, once again its easy to tag onto your resume that my instructors is a real deal hard nosed doorman so that proves that my art must have value.




      Larry works with compliant personnel to much, has an improved timing and a fundamental but staccato rhythm pattern, has gaps not holes in his defense, could sometimes more usefully employ his slapping hand, his work would improve if he stopped working against an underdeveloped attack.
      Paul Mills has fast hands, highly developed timing and a good rhythm patterning, does have a sense of flow which is restricted by his poor breath control, his 360, 9 plane maneuvering is underdeveloped. The improved transition in his stance work has compromised the use of his stances to restrict them to use as power sources for hand delivered strikes. Once again works against under developed assaults.
      Jeff Speakman, Hmmm not sure, the one real area of improvement is his addressing of the undeveloped assault which as you may have gathered is the fucking thing that pisses me off more than anything in kempo.
      Personal Kenpo experiences MOI!, no I just watch a shit load of videos lol.

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        #33
        Hrmm, thanks for your response. Interesting take.

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          #34
          No problem Kempo Fist, like a lot of keNpo guys Iam a self opinionated bore

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            #35
            anyone know much about Kimo? Read alot of BS and other things. I have started training with him recently and just weeding out some of the BS.

            Thanks for any info

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              #36
              Originally posted by Shinobi_Osiris
              whats larry tatums story? i cant find anything on him.....is he as much a corn-ball as Ed Parker?
              ??

              If you are going to make a statement like that at the very least it should be qualified. But I guess you can say something like that so why not just sprout it off?

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                #37
                Originally posted by sempaiman
                Good point, but also apllies to guys like Robert Trias (and other American service man), who left as brown belts and landed 4th degree balck. Parker just must have gotten the Greyhound station promotions.
                Your talking about two guys who were instrumental in the development of martial arts last century, whatever you think about them. They are not above reproach but ridiculing Trias and Parkers' rank? What a stupid thing to do. That is like asking what style Bruce Lee had a Black Belt in? or what Ju JUtsu system the Gracies had rank in?

                In all cases the question is irrelevent.
                Last edited by Dsimon3387; 5/04/2007 10:42pm, .

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Tom Bone
                  Mr. Sempaiman,
                  everyone knows that it was the Japanese and the Koreans that this applies to they left Tokyo/Seoul as 1st Dans and landed in L.A. / London as 5th Dans, I suppose that must have been the inflight promotions.
                  All you guys with Asian names have been had wooooohah hah hah.
                  OSS
                  Can you name which Japanese had a rank up-grade upon landing in America ?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Dsimon3387
                    ....

                    In all cases the question is irrelevent.
                    If you say so. I guess there has to be a guy that starts the system, so ge gets the 10th dan, and awards rank to others.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Tom Bone
                      I suppose it depends on what you want from your study, after all a punch is a punch and a kick is a kick, so a plateau is reached a different times for different people once again depending on what they want from what they are studying.

                      If you want to use bouncers as you bench mark for what you would like to achieve from your studies fine, once again its easy to tag onto your resume that my instructors is a real deal hard nosed doorman so that proves that my art must have value.




                      Larry works with compliant personnel to much, has an improved timing and a fundamental but staccato rhythm pattern, has gaps not holes in his defense, could sometimes more usefully employ his slapping hand, his work would improve if he stopped working against an underdeveloped attack.
                      Paul Mills has fast hands, highly developed timing and a good rhythm patterning, does have a sense of flow which is restricted by his poor breath control, his 360, 9 plane maneuvering is underdeveloped. The improved transition in his stance work has compromised the use of his stances to restrict them to use as power sources for hand delivered strikes. Once again works against under developed assaults.
                      Jeff Speakman, Hmmm not sure, the one real area of improvement is his addressing of the undeveloped assault which as you may have gathered is the fucking thing that pisses me off more than anything in kempo.
                      Personal Kenpo experiences MOI!, no I just watch a shit load of videos lol.
                      Gabster? Is that you?

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