I need info on Shingo-Ha Yoshukai Karate!

[Airman Kai]

Did a search, and no luck. Also did a google search, but it only yielded some uninformative threads elsewhere and two websites (one of which has ZERO info, and a stupid-ass gif, and the other page simply doesn't load at all).

http://www.geocities.com/yoshukai_us/

http://www.shingohayoshukai.com/

There IS a wiki page on it, but it only provides the barest of explantions on it's origin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingo-ha_yoshukai

Does anyone have more information on Shingo-Ha Yoshukai Karate? A SSgt teaches (for free, except for belt fees) this style to 4 of my fellow airman in my brother squadron, and I sat in on one of the classes because... well, it was free. What I saw was basically a lot of general karate stuff, and a lot of "95% of karate schools have lost their way, but we're in the 5%" talk.

Also, there was a lot of work on kata and crappy (imo) joint locks. I haven't gone to another session since then, but my friend tells me that a lot more sparring has been worked into the class.

The actual reason I'm interested in this style's validty is so that I can wrest my friend away from this fallacy. He's been sparring with me, and it's pretty clear his karate just ain't cuttin' it, but I need some sort of concrete "this whole style is a crock of shit" info to turn him away from the dark side.

What I DO know is that Dr. Chitose Tsuyoshi founded Chito-ryu from his knowledge of japanese Tode (or "tote"), and Dr. Mike Sadler, one of Chitose's top students, split from Chito-ryu and formed Shingo-Ha Yoshukai.

[senseitomlins]

Shingo-ha Yoshukai

If you want to learn more about a Martial Art, you should go to the class and talk to the instructor. Jason Grambling is the instructor to talk to at your location. He could give you any information you require. Shingo ha Yoshukai is not a "crap" style and while this is my opinion, I have trained over the years with other styles and found this to be a Martial Art that is based on what can and does work. While I do not think that it is infalible that is directly due to the fact the we as humans are not perfect. You seem to know alot about martial arts given you are not very old, what is your back ground? How many years have you trained and under what instructors do you accredit your training? I have know many fighters from Yoshukai over the years and they are top of thier game. If you want to study more about the history, look at Chito ryu. All the Yoshukai are based from this to include, Shingo ha Yoshukai, World Yoshukai, International Yoshukai, and U.S. Yoshukai.

Remember it is easy to talk bad about something you know nothing about. It harder to have the guts to inquire and learn from someone who knows more than you.

Shihan

[plasma]

What the orgins of Shingo-ha Yoshukai?

How do you spar?

Explain how is it different then lets say Wado Ryu?

How do you know it works?

Explain to me why you shouldn't kill yourself.

[babo78]

If you want to learn more about a Martial Art, you should go to the class and talk to the instructor.

That's true but that's only part of equation for full information gathering for learning purposes. Input from outsiders out that style regarding that MA is needed as well for comprehensive overview.

I have trained over the years with other styles and found this to be a Martial Art that is based on what can and does work.

Please list some of your credentials by listing some of those other styles and approx. time spent training.

I have know many fighters from Yoshukai over the years and they are top of thier game. If you want to study more about the history, look at Chito ryu. All the Yoshukai are based from this to include, Shingo ha Yoshukai, World Yoshukai, International Yoshukai, and U.S. Yoshukai.

What kai is more concerned with isn't necessarily with history but effectiveness and trustworthiness of training in style. Because lot, if not most karate is frowned upon as ineffective and not worth time training on this site.

Remember it is easy to talk bad about something you know nothing about. It harder to have the guts to inquire and learn from someone who knows more than you.

Shihan

Definitly. In my opinion, despite the word Kai used to describe Shingo-Ha Yoshukai Karate. He does have valid questions and he is asking on a reputable website where there are plenty of people who knows a lot more and active/retired fighters/trainer.

I'm just asking these because those are typical questions asked when someone inquires about a style and someone chimes in to reply from the style itself or the school.

Someone more experienced than me will come along and ask you how you guys train, spar, etc.