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    A change is in the air?

    This website used to controled by mixed martial artist.

    Now its like every TMA guy from around the world comes here and talks about there deadly art.

    Even though we know if it was really deadly we would see it in the UFC or something like it over seas with no rules.

    I guess like everyone else i dont feel like fighting a billion people who swear that there TKD master could kill everyone in the ufc with some flying kick or chi bolt.

    What went wrong, the battle is starting to go the wrong way.
    Once a fighter, Always a fighter. Shawn
    -Styles i train in-
    Judo
    Bjj
    Mtkickboxing
    Western boxing
    Wrestling

    #2
    Shut the fuck up youngin'.

    If you want to start a MMA vs. tradional thread (like the 2000 that have already been started), at least start it with SOME kind of sensible post.

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      #3
      bitch know your place.

      No really, I am noting that we let TMA trash from mcdojos freely walk around this website.
      Once a fighter, Always a fighter. Shawn
      -Styles i train in-
      Judo
      Bjj
      Mtkickboxing
      Western boxing
      Wrestling

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        #4
        Define Mixed Martial art.

        JKD is already a mixed Martial art.

        Krav Maga (from what I've heard) is ready mixed.

        Escrima concepts encorporates a lot of western weapons. Not sure if that constitutes mixed though as the theory/concepts are the same regardless of weapon origin.

        I'd just like to get some idea as to definition. where would something like Kyokushin fall? TMA I guess.

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          #5
          Both striking and grappling are needed.

          Don't stick to any traditions, do what's right for you.

          Things need to be tested against a resisting opponent, in training or competition.

          Be very warey of anyone claiming to be "Too deadly", even if by some strange twist of fate they were (cough), when on earth is it ever going to be neccassary to kill the other guy ? It'd be like me telling you I can walk on water, not showing you, and then asking YOU to prove ME wrong.

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          Space may be the final frontier,
          But it's made in a Hollywood basement.
          "You realise the transformations give a man enough strength to destroy a truck with his bare hands!?
          YOU HAVE BETRAYED ME, IN THE WORST POSSIBLE MANNER!!" - KiWarrior

          "Sport ? That kind of thing's not my bag baby!" - Sammy Franco

          "This system was developed with the help of notible BJJ fighter Ribbon Muchado." - "Sifu" Anthony Iglesias

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            #6
            Well, up to a certain extent, most MA's are already adapting several techniques outside of their repertoire for use in sparring/self defence.

            My TKD teacher also incorporates some JJ/Pencak Silat grappling and arm control into his curriculum.

            My JJ teacher also focusses on some Karate (Kyokushin) for striking.

            My Pencak Silat teacher just teaches Pencak Silat, but that stuff has good range coverage either way.

            It's not uncommon.

            Simps

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              #7
              Judo-kid, meet Blade Windu. Blade Windu, Judo-kid. Oh, you've already met? At the 'People Who Need to Shut the Fuck Up Club'? Of all places! Tell Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell I said hi.
              "The morning glory blooms for an hour. It differs not at heart from the giant pine, which lives for a thousand years."

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                #8
                I think Mr Windu has very good opinions, he doesn't fall for any bullshit.

                ----------------------------------------------------------
                Space may be the final frontier,
                But it's made in a Hollywood basement.
                "You realise the transformations give a man enough strength to destroy a truck with his bare hands!?
                YOU HAVE BETRAYED ME, IN THE WORST POSSIBLE MANNER!!" - KiWarrior

                "Sport ? That kind of thing's not my bag baby!" - Sammy Franco

                "This system was developed with the help of notible BJJ fighter Ribbon Muchado." - "Sifu" Anthony Iglesias

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                  #9
                  Sure, and L. Ron Hubbard was a great humanitarian who never wanted to create his own religion for money.
                  "The morning glory blooms for an hour. It differs not at heart from the giant pine, which lives for a thousand years."

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                    #10
                    I'll chime in here for a second...

                    I've kind of wondered the same thing. Not about TMA's so much, but more about Krav Maga. What's up with that?

                    People bust on SCARS up and down on this site, but I always figured Krav Maga was about the same thing. Another "street" art that is too deadly to use in competition.

                    I mean, go mention Krav on R-MA and you'll get an earfull (eyefull, really). Why does it get a pass here?

                    Regards,
                    Matt

                    "My cat's name is Mittens."
                    Ralph Wiggum

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                      #11
                      Merc, I have no idea who that is.

                      I'm guessing he's someone who created his own religion for money, and he wasn't very humane.

                      Don't ask me where I got that from though.


                      ----------------------------------------------------------
                      Space may be the final frontier,
                      But it's made in a Hollywood basement.
                      "You realise the transformations give a man enough strength to destroy a truck with his bare hands!?
                      YOU HAVE BETRAYED ME, IN THE WORST POSSIBLE MANNER!!" - KiWarrior

                      "Sport ? That kind of thing's not my bag baby!" - Sammy Franco

                      "This system was developed with the help of notible BJJ fighter Ribbon Muchado." - "Sifu" Anthony Iglesias

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                        #12
                        As for "chi bolts" and other such nonsense...

                        This has nothing whatsoever to do with authentic TMA training. Neither does the kind of "qinggong" or lightness training that is supposed to be able to make you fly. These legends are extrapolations on what TMAs *do* train--things like energy transfer along the length of the body, and agility/"lightness" while stepping or otherwise contacting surfaces. [respectively] TMAs can train *uncanny* sensitivity and muscular efficiency, but it was never supposed that you could, say, deny your own mass and walk on the edge of a pot without tipping it. Those are the elaborations of novelists, hagiographers, and overzealous nth-generation students.

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                          #13
                          I think the MMA people just ran out of steam repeating the same stuff to the TMAers that post ,"Here is my style's website, tell me what you think".

                          I will never forget the guy who swore his 170 lb. instructor could beat Bob Sapp, or that I could, with proper Chi cultivation and tens years training, do the same.

                          http://www.zanshin-dojo.de

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                            #14
                            It'd be like me telling you I can walk on water, not showing you, and then asking YOU to prove ME wrong.
                            Bollocks. Walking on water is impossible.

                            Killing a man is not.

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                              #15
                              OK then, I can survive a 15,000 ft fall from a plane with no chute.

                              I'm never actually going to do it of course, or prove it to anyone, but I need not, it's possible.

                              ----------------------------------------------------------
                              Space may be the final frontier,
                              But it's made in a Hollywood basement.
                              "You realise the transformations give a man enough strength to destroy a truck with his bare hands!?
                              YOU HAVE BETRAYED ME, IN THE WORST POSSIBLE MANNER!!" - KiWarrior

                              "Sport ? That kind of thing's not my bag baby!" - Sammy Franco

                              "This system was developed with the help of notible BJJ fighter Ribbon Muchado." - "Sifu" Anthony Iglesias

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