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    #16
    I fucking hate getting kicked in the head. We have an ex-Muay Thai guy who's fast as hell and he can kick to the head effectively. I love/hate sparring with him: terror is both exhilarting and draining.

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      #17
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        #18
        Sounds like if the guy had really wanted to prove something, and I mean been willing to make it a fight, he would have made at least one more go of it. As you told it, it sounds a lot like he found out it wasn't going to be as easy as he'd thought and decided the possibility of bragging rights wasn't worth the possibility of an ass whuppin'.

        Truewrestler, striking alone may not be the best option to stop a shot, but it works often enough to train it. Despite the easy success in early MMA matches, enough guys are being beaten or shaken off by strikes when they shoot that its worth working on. BBmag reported on the latest Extreme Cage, or King of Cage, forget which, and it had plenty of shoot-eat knee/strike-lose to KO/get wonkied and lose while disoriented results. Once you know what your up against, which takes some training on the otehr side of the fence, you've got a fair chance at stopping it. Not trying to strike if you have an opening is a bad plan. Not learning to sprawl while planting someones face hard into the mats is a bad plan as well.

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          #19
          Liddell wins because he sprawls and then strikes. Watch him.

          "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - for ever."
          Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the fuck I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog

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            #20
            gee guys, I always thought Wing Chun WAS A grappling style

            well, why do I say this? maybe since I FUCKING take Wing Chun


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              #21
              Props to your instructor, dealing with that can be really annoying.

              What an ass, "Hi I'd like to waste your time by pretending to be interested in your style but instead promote my religion, err style, like a door to door religion salesman."

              Wyatt

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                #22
                "how do your ribs feel? ;)"

                ????

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                  #23
                  lol, but first show me your anti grappling

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                    #24
                    ::Cocks his shotgun:: Anyone wanna try to grapple?

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                      #25
                      Dochter,
                      Oh crap...okay, but NO STRENGTH!! We wouldn't want to sacrifice and opportunity to polish technique...hehe.

                      "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - for ever."
                      Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the fuck I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog

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                        #26
                        "Just because he wasnt a jerk about it doesnt mean he wasnt serious."

                        He was a jerk! If he came in and said flat out, "I would like to test my skill in (insert art here) against someone of comparable skill/experience in Wing Chun", someone might have accomidated him as long as there could be an agreement on rules and proper saftey equipment. He did not. He did:

                        1: Ask for the head instructor, aka the person likely to have the most skill. This showed his arrogance. I don't now how much training this guy had, but to think you can come in a take on the best guy in a school is just stupid, especially if you aren't at the same level at your school. If the guy was a black belt or something maybe, but he obivously didn't a lot of skills.

                        2: Lie and say he wanted to take lessons in Wing Chun, which he obiviously had not intention of doing so. He really wanted to prove to himself things he had heard and said before.

                        Even if he came in and said "Hi. I'm a local (insert style here) stylist and have heard that Wing Chun can have strategic disadvantages against an art like my own, what are your feelings about that?", my instructor would have probably had a pleasent and logical discussion with him about fighting strategy, agreeing with him on many points. My instructor is always open to a frank and honest discussion of the pros and cons of anything he teaches, but this guy came in with an attitude.

                        3. The guy continued to claim that what my instructor did "wouldn't work". My instructor never claimed that it would. All he said that this is what a Wing Chun guy, confining himself to just Wing Chun, would TRY to do. Whether it would work or not is up to the two people involved. In this case it did.





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                          #27
                          Nothing works ALL the time.... but I'm LMAO because it WORKED that time!

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                            #28
                            Given the MO, the guy sounds like he's been doing BJJ for about six months, and is slightly full of himself, even though he's still the class bitch a.k.a "He who taps with metronomic regularity".

                            Sounds like me about ten months ago. The difference is, I didn't challenge anyone, and got a little bit older and wiser while training.

                            The only time I've ever been REMOTELY close to challenging someone is when the 4th Dan TKD instructor who takes the class in the hall where my BJJ class is, when questioned, stated that:
                            1. Takedowns could be countered with a kick to the head
                            2. Chokes were 'too dangerous' to be used in practice.
                            BTW: This guy couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag, much less his students(apart from one notable exception, a BIG 6'4-6'5 American guy). I'd be happy to strike with him, and my stand up is absolute shite.

                            I've never been closer to shooting on someone in my life(outside of a class or tournament setting). Oh the visions of taking the stupid prick down on hard basketball court surface and watching his face turn many interesting shades of purple as I choked him with his gi...

                            The guy has to be either a next-to-newbie BJJer, or an MMA nutrider who's closest exposure to the mat comes from watching UFC PPVs. Personally, I couldn't give a rusty fuck what people believe. I'll merely be content to chuckle internally at visions of the pavement pizza faces of people who didn't know how to sprawl...





                            Edited by - NSLightsOut on June 01 2003 14:02:33

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                              #29
                              The guy sounds like a jerk and your instructor was cool NOT to loose his control and to remain calm and get rid of the idiot. In Kajukenbo class one night a biker came in and, with respect, asked if this stuff really worked. The instructor put on gloves and his mouth guard and they went at it. It was a challenge and it was done in a friendly manner. Bob, the biker, worked out for years and was a brown belt in Kyokushinkai last I saw him, though his basic "fighting" style was still bear hug, body slam, then beat the shit out of 'em. I saying that there are cool ways and uncool ways and the uncool ways could get you real fucked up if someone with some skills gets annoyed (and has the ego of one 5th degree Kempo guy I know, Mr. Chip on shoulder).


                              And Osiris, wish you were here so I could practice my spin kicks. That little fker in the Honolulu Shotokan dojo cracked my ribs with one and then a couple years ago this multi system bb got me with a spin hook and it hurt. Enough that at night I couldn't turn over in bed without bracing and groaning so I told my wife I'd pulled my back at work. I'll find these guys and send them South.



                              Edited by - patfromlogan on June 01 2003 14:36:14
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                                #30
                                Well teach me how to defend 'cause they keep hitting me. As do straight rights, lefts, uppercuts, hooks, back kicks, front kicks, takedowns, sweeps, and so forth.
                                "Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez

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