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  • PizDoff
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    neck position affects spinal position

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  • mikus
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    Oh and also, it's not just punching. If it affects your structure, it'll affect *everything* that you do.

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  • mikus
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    Nihilanthic: "how does neck position affect punching? The muscles responsible are situated in the chest, shoulders, triceps, and surrounding muscles..."

    Me: "And nihilanthic, a punches' power shouldn't be generated purely by muscles..."

    Nihilanthic: "mikus - no, it shouldn't, its mechanics and leverage. But without muscle you can't move at all. Better leverage means you use muscle better. Bigger muscles aren't bad now, are they?"

    What the hell are you talking about? I never said nor implied that you can move without muscles. And the statement that without muscles you can't move at all is pretty meaningless. I suppose that if I want to say something as meaningless as what you're saying, I can say "Without structure you won't even *exist*!" whooaaaaaa....

    But seriously, your first post suggests that only muscle affects punching. But nope. If it affects your body alignment, it WILL affect punching.

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  • 9chambers
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    Its also not legal to hit someone in the throat in boxing.

    Ali was fond of taunting his opponents and baiting them. He also had a lot of reach on a lot of fighters and he was taller than most, this allowed him to stay out of range by keeping his back straight. When being defensive (rope a dope) or up close he tucked his chin in and rounded his back like everyone else.

    Edited by - 9chambers on May 18 2003 17:28:14

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  • PizDoff
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    Middlemoor-And the fake fighters don't put the chin down right?
    bah...



    Stold3-I've seen matches where boxers DON"T put the chin down...

    and the SPORT of boxing is different than bare knuckle fighting, no bigass oven mitts to protect your hands and the other guy
    so you see boxing matches where people take hundreds of hits but in real life would only be able to stand maybe 10-20 hard hits?
    i don't know, i'm just making these numbers up

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  • Omar
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    But Ali doesn't do that chin behind the shuolder thing.

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  • Middlemoor
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    Real fighters tuck thier chins in because they're battling real hitters. It might not be so important to tuck against a chump with no methods.

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  • Choke
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    "And just because you saw one or two guys take a throat shot and not die, doesn't mean a whole lot. It still hurts a fucken lot, and I'll bet a good knife/ridge hand to the throat would be a fight stopper."

    I don't doubt this. The instance I saw did end the fight! But it takes a very hard, very precise strike to destroy the trachea. Your more prone to jack someone's jaw in a fight than end the confrontation with a throat strike.

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  • Stold3
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    The whole chin-tuck thing in boxing is based around the idea that, in a fight, you are going to get punched at least once and you don't want that punch to be a knockout. Considering the fact that often times in real fights you do get punched at least once, I'd say it has some merit.

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  • tangshou
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    My traditional gongfu teacher who also does sanda kickboxing tells me to keep the head and back straight and relax the shoulders when doing forms, but to tuck the chin, round the back, and raise the shoulders whenever I fight, be it sanda or in real life (also when punching the bag, etc.).

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  • panda
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    in general, chin down is good, if u break that rule know the risks u face and have a good reason to do it, its not a cardinal sin to untuck ur chin because an unhunched back allows u to move back and counter faster in terms of kicking

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  • elipson
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    I just wanna say something about the the throat strike being hyped.

    A brown belt in my JJJ class is a paramedic, and a few months ago I asked him this very question. He said that it is very possible to break someones trachea with a strike. Now you guys can make all the assumptions you want, but I'm gonna believe the paramedic because it's his business to know these things.

    And just because you saw one or two guys take a throat shot and not die, doesn't mean a whole lot. It still hurts a fucken lot, and I'll bet a good knife/ridge hand to the throat would be a fight stopper.

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  • PizDoff
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    thanks WTDude
    so it really depends on my stance....

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  • cyrijl
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    i think chin down is the best option. When sparring it decreases the chances of a knockout or throat strike and when grappling prevents chokes. Keeping my chin down in krav has helped me not get choked in BJJ.

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  • Simps
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    I would definitely protect the throat, because even if the strike won't kill you, it will impair your breathing, focus and you will probably lose the fight.

    Also, if your opponent has an Eagle Claw technique in their arsenal, I would be very careful about exposing your throat.

    Simps

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