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    #31
    We're taught to kind of imagine a string attached to the top, back part of your head, and also the ceiling. So the back of your head is kinda propped up. It keeps your spine aligned well and also tucks your chin a bit. Not nearly as much as a boxer's stance, but it seems a helluva lot better than just leaving your chin hanging out to get smacked around.

    And nihilanthic, a punches' power shouldn't be generated purely by muscles...

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      #32
      SD,

      It was a spinning ridge hand with the palm up. He was wearing point sparring gloves, light vynyl, tiger claws to be specific. It caught him square in the throat as far as i could see. It was a brutal shot.

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        #33
        I think this issue has something to do with the footwork you use. In my style, we generally keep all of our bodyweight on the rear leg, keep the head back, and hands somewhat outstretched. In this style it seems better to keep the chin up. If you are leaning forward with some weight on the front leg, then it seems like a good idea to tuck the chin in (also in grappling or if falling backward).

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          #34
          mikus - no, it shouldn't, its mechanics and leverage. But without muscle you can't move at all. Better leverage means you use muscle better. Bigger muscles aren't bad now, are they?

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            #35
            I think the chin up thing is common in WC. I am just a little self -conscious about using it sometimes. I suppose one can tuck the chin as one moves in.

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              #36
              I would definitely protect the throat, because even if the strike won't kill you, it will impair your breathing, focus and you will probably lose the fight.

              Also, if your opponent has an Eagle Claw technique in their arsenal, I would be very careful about exposing your throat.

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                #37
                i think chin down is the best option. When sparring it decreases the chances of a knockout or throat strike and when grappling prevents chokes. Keeping my chin down in krav has helped me not get choked in BJJ.

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                  #38
                  thanks WTDude
                  so it really depends on my stance....

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                    #39
                    I just wanna say something about the the throat strike being hyped.

                    A brown belt in my JJJ class is a paramedic, and a few months ago I asked him this very question. He said that it is very possible to break someones trachea with a strike. Now you guys can make all the assumptions you want, but I'm gonna believe the paramedic because it's his business to know these things.

                    And just because you saw one or two guys take a throat shot and not die, doesn't mean a whole lot. It still hurts a fucken lot, and I'll bet a good knife/ridge hand to the throat would be a fight stopper.

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                      #40
                      in general, chin down is good, if u break that rule know the risks u face and have a good reason to do it, its not a cardinal sin to untuck ur chin because an unhunched back allows u to move back and counter faster in terms of kicking

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                        #41
                        My traditional gongfu teacher who also does sanda kickboxing tells me to keep the head and back straight and relax the shoulders when doing forms, but to tuck the chin, round the back, and raise the shoulders whenever I fight, be it sanda or in real life (also when punching the bag, etc.).

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                          #42
                          The whole chin-tuck thing in boxing is based around the idea that, in a fight, you are going to get punched at least once and you don't want that punch to be a knockout. Considering the fact that often times in real fights you do get punched at least once, I'd say it has some merit.
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                            #43
                            "And just because you saw one or two guys take a throat shot and not die, doesn't mean a whole lot. It still hurts a fucken lot, and I'll bet a good knife/ridge hand to the throat would be a fight stopper."

                            I don't doubt this. The instance I saw did end the fight! But it takes a very hard, very precise strike to destroy the trachea. Your more prone to jack someone's jaw in a fight than end the confrontation with a throat strike.

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                              #44
                              Real fighters tuck thier chins in because they're battling real hitters. It might not be so important to tuck against a chump with no methods.

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                                #45
                                But Ali doesn't do that chin behind the shuolder thing.

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