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    A simple defence against legs on the ground?

    I was grappling my brother by attacking him as he lay on a bed. I leapt on him screaming, "IN THE NUTS! IN THE NUTS!". I was able to grab his leg and I bit it, (not full force of course, but he was distracted). He then started to push me away with his legs, as I was sitting on the bed trying to immobolize his leg and put it in a hold. I was pushed away, and am wondering how I should approach this problem. This is not the first time someone has done this to me.


    Should I grab my opponent's leg, turn away from my opponent and immobolize the ankle, twisting the foot painfully by hooking my left arm around the leg under the knee or across the ankle and twisting the foot with my right? Should I grab the foot of my opponent and flip my opponent over somehow, applying a reverse leg-lock? What isthe best way to flip an opponent over on to his stomach? Should I grab the leg of my opponent and drag them?

    A 6th dan black belt in bastardry.

    "Damn you! You dirty fighter." My sparring partner, also disabled, recovering from being bitten.
    What am I?:

    I am ignorant, thieving, lying, hypocrital, violent and thoroughly self obssessed. I steal from others to make myself look better, only to make the item or information worse.

    I go on and on and ON about how brave and strong and brilliant and wealthy I am, but in the end I'm all mouth and no trousers.

    That's right children, I'm your average AMERICUNT! and I exemplify AMERICA!:911flag:

    :occasion1

    JohnnyCache's "retort" proving how much he knows about medicine and geography and First World countries:
    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...=78188&page=22

    Yes, through persistent lack of work and the cultivation of ignorance, he is a true American.

    #2
    jesus christ dude, go easy on ur brother...sounds like a standard guard pass if he's trying to push u away with his legs, u can do the classic ways like grab both legs, toss them to the side and try to get to a sidemount, the most basic way is to pin one leg on the ground, then place the other leg on ur shoulder and keep on pressing forward till its uncomfortable and then shift that leg to the same side as the other leg u pinned and get to side mount; knee on thigh pass work pretty well too but often painful for the person defending (not that u seem to care). Another way is to simply push forward with ur weight on the other persons legs, (their hamstring should be against ur chest) and "stack" them till its very uncomfortable for them and then dump him to the side to get into side control.
    Those are the tried and tru ways of passing the guard, but u seem like u r crazy enough to do some other psycho guard passes like cartwheeling over their legs or fake them out with a 360 spin to the side (alot like that basketball move ppl do)...just dont hurt urself man

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      #3
      and dont hurt ur sparring partner either

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        #4
        Stab his foot with a sword!

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          #5
          Not a big fan of having to deal with someone's legs ... your best bet would be to push them towards the side, grab one of them and then bend his leg and twist his lower leg towards the outside ... this will make him end up on his belly.

          Whenever you're in a situation like that, keep both legs to the side of you .. keeps you from getting kicked.

          Be careful that you don't apply too much force, because you will fuck up his knees.

          Simps

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            #6
            "Angry Spastic" huh?

            What an appropriate name.

            Go away I'm talking to myself

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              #7
              lol

              i think he has a twin as well

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                #8
                I leapt on him screaming, "IN THE NUTS! IN THE NUTS!". I was able to grab his leg and I bit it
                Based on this quote, I don't think anything I tell you will help anyway :)

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                  #9
                  Heel hook, toe hold, achilles hold, calf hold, knee bar, pass his guard, change to a better position. Any of those may or may not work.
                  If he's pushing you back with his legs then a submission should be relatively easy.

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                    #10
                    Not being a dumb ass.
                    And that's when I figured out that tears couldn't make somebody who was dead alive again. There's another thing to learn about tears, they can't make somebody who doesn't love you any more love you again. It's the same with prayers. I wonder how much of their lives people waste crying and praying to God. If you ask me, the devil makes more sense than God does. I can at least see why people would want him around. It's good to have somebody to blame for the bad stuff they do. Maybe God's there because people get scared of all the bad stuff they do. They figure that God and the Devil are always playing this game of tug-of-war game with them. And they never know which side they're gonna wind up on. I guess that tug-of-war idea explains how sometimes, even when people try to do something good, it still turns out bad.

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                      #11
                      Panda is correct. Classic way of passing the guard. Stacking. Trying to pull a leg over and flipping who has you in their guard is pretty hard. Not to mention if they are trying to submit or punch you at the same time. The Stack negates alot of that.



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                      Originally posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
                      "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".

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                        #12
                        You can always just attack his legs, especially if his arms are on the other side of you.

                        Edited by - Middlemoor on May 13 2003 03:57:58

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                          #13
                          "Angry Spastic" huh?

                          What an appropriate name.

                          Go away I'm talking to myself
                          Of course it's an appropriate name Omega! I have spasticity and I'm angry! Would you prefer I called myself "Taiji Masta Woo" or some other FALSE name?



                          A 6th dan black belt in bastardry.

                          "Damn you! You dirty fighter." My sparring partner, also disabled, recovering from being bitten.
                          What am I?:

                          I am ignorant, thieving, lying, hypocrital, violent and thoroughly self obssessed. I steal from others to make myself look better, only to make the item or information worse.

                          I go on and on and ON about how brave and strong and brilliant and wealthy I am, but in the end I'm all mouth and no trousers.

                          That's right children, I'm your average AMERICUNT! and I exemplify AMERICA!:911flag:

                          :occasion1

                          JohnnyCache's "retort" proving how much he knows about medicine and geography and First World countries:
                          http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...=78188&page=22

                          Yes, through persistent lack of work and the cultivation of ignorance, he is a true American.

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