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    #61
    Ha, well technically you DID walk into "my gym" i found a site saying arakan looks bogus. i came here to clear this up, or rather shed light. and i am here to counter your argument of "not wanting people to get hurt". i think the only thing manufactured is your sense of what is real and fake.

    Getting back to your little MMA or watever, i am quite happy with myself so getting validation of "yeh im a better fighter than xyz" doesn't really appeal to me. besides, i take it that there would be rules and guide lines?? pretty sure they don't exist on the street. further more, wearing gloves would be a disadvantage to us. pretty sure you can't release the clean power through padded accesories.

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      #62
      why would he do that? they are instructors. i am sure i have mentioned that they don't do competition. there are reasons for that. although AGES ago a few "rouge" practitioners entered the UFC.

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        #63
        OK, I only just saw this thread, so forgive my late entry.

        I have encountered Arakan before, being on the gold coast. Back in around 2002, a friend of mine trained in the style for about a year. I encouraged him to come do some sessions with me, and to exchange ideas as I am genuinely interested in how other people do things.

        My observations (based on doing padwork with my friend, and the little bit of sparring we did) were as follows:

        (note: I refer to the martial art as Arakan, and the fellow posting here as ARAKAN)
        Last edited by Deadmeat; 9/25/2007 5:47pm, .

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          #64
          Originally posted by Arakan
          why would he do that? they are instructors. i am sure i have mentioned that they don't do competition. there are reasons for that. although AGES ago a few "rouge" practitioners entered the UFC.
          Well, what are their names?
          Which UFCs.
          I mean that is a pretty boastful claim.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Arakan
            Ha, well technically you DID walk into "my gym" i found a site saying arakan looks bogus. i came here to clear this up, or rather shed light. and i am here to counter your argument of "not wanting people to get hurt". i think the only thing manufactured is your sense of what is real and fake.

            Getting back to your little MMA or watever, i am quite happy with myself so getting validation of "yeh im a better fighter than xyz" doesn't really appeal to me. besides, i take it that there would be rules and guide lines?? pretty sure they don't exist on the street. further more, wearing gloves would be a disadvantage to us. pretty sure you can't release the clean power through padded accesories.
            There's nothing manufactured about my senses of anything. I've been training most of my life and seen quite a bit of horseshit. Happily trained a lot of horsehit too. I had to learn the hard way.

            The rules vs no rules debate has already happened ad naseum. It doesn't impress me anymore. But I would like to suggest that if you never get to train you "deadly techniques" at all than how do you know they work? Because your instructor says so? That was fine back in the day when there was a lot of heirarchical (yeah I know I mispelled that. Sorry.) bullshit associated with the martial arts but those days are passed. And thats a blessing through and through. Now you should be encouraged to question everything. Logic would dictate that in order for a thing to be true it must be proven so. Thats not a new idea, but I can't tell you how harmful blind faith is.

            But go with god, man. If you feel you get something out of it I encourage enjoying your life. I try to enjoy mine.

            And I'll add just one more time: Please dabble in something else while you continue your study of arakan. Your teacher permits you to do that right?
            Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
            and remember what peace there may be in silence.
            As far as possible, without surrender,
            be on good terms with all persons.
            Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
            and listen to others,
            even to the dull and ignorant;
            they too have their story.

            -excerpt of the poem called "Desiderata," by Max Ehrman, 1927.

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              #66
              yeh i can train in watever i want to, but i choose not to at this point in my life.

              JP, ever heard of the term innocent till proven guilty? prove im wrong with physical evidence and i'll except defeat. get one of the bullies down here and have a lesson. the instructor encourage it.

              Deadmeat, thanks. you have probably explined it better than i could. Arakan has just release a new promo DVD, i have uploaded onto my computer i just gotta get the correct format happening. (it's still in its DVD format) As for your offer, thanks but i am pretty busy with work and training that i will find it hard to get some spare time. although there is a group class on in broadbeach very close to pac fair. you should call up and see if you can watch or join in. as for your ribs, saftey does come first so they will always take care of you.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Arakan
                im not at the stage where i could fight another "martail artist" yet
                Then you see why we are so sceptical.

                Originally posted by Arakan
                though i believe i could handle average joe in the street.
                Common misconception from those that train "for the street, not competition".

                "Average Joe" doesn't like to fight.

                "Billy Badass" likes to fight, is decently skilled at inflicting harm, and has practised doing so one more than one occasion.

                Originally posted by Arakan
                that being said, if it came down to survival, i would do everything i could to win.
                Good. Start with picking a functional fighting style.

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                  #68
                  As for the UFC claim, yup, sure is ballsy. And from what i understand he won it. there were also a couple of guys who thought they were tougher than they were but. However like i said, we are disadvantaged if we are wearing gloves.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Arakan
                    yeh i can train in watever i want to, but i choose not to at this point in my life.

                    JP, ever heard of the term innocent till proven guilty? prove im wrong with physical evidence and i'll except defeat. get one of the bullies down here and have a lesson. the instructor encourage it.

                    Deadmeat, thanks. you have probably explined it better than i could. Arakan has just release a new promo DVD, i have uploaded onto my computer i just gotta get the correct format happening. (it's still in its DVD format) As for your offer, thanks but i am pretty busy with work and training that i will find it hard to get some spare time. although there is a group class on in broadbeach very close to pac fair. you should call up and see if you can watch or join in. as for your ribs, saftey does come first so they will always take care of you.

                    The reason I ask is that its usually a further earmark of a bullshit system that they don't allow you to cross-train. The fact that your instructor doesn't have a problem with that is a good thing.

                    I can't get one of the "bullies" to do anything. Nor would I attempt to organize something like that. It often disolves into idiocy. (rarely the fault of the bullshido folks).

                    I have heard of innocent until proven guilty. Quaint concept. You ever actually see it exist in real life?
                    Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
                    and remember what peace there may be in silence.
                    As far as possible, without surrender,
                    be on good terms with all persons.
                    Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
                    and listen to others,
                    even to the dull and ignorant;
                    they too have their story.

                    -excerpt of the poem called "Desiderata," by Max Ehrman, 1927.

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                      #70
                      *sigh*

                      It's not competetion. i've only been doing it for a year. What i ment was, i wouldn't be able to beat a blackbelt watever. They say i would be about at blue or brown belt level atm. Any blackbelt who fight on the street just because should have his belt taken away. thats not cool. average joe, no worries.

                      "Billy badass" pft ok, yeh but he has had no martial arts training. i believe in myself that i would come out on top. unless he managed to knock me out in one hit from behind. We train for the worst case scenario. hit before you get hit. we are attackers not defenders.
                      That being said i would always try to talk my way out of a conflict. I would only use arakan if i had to.

                      So i guess that clears up your point on functional.

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                        #71
                        ha yeh on CSI all the time ;)

                        nah thats cool, i was gunna upload some vids last night but i was to wrecked after training... i'll see how i go tonight.

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                          #72
                          UFC is very well documented, that's kinda the point. Which UFC did they fight in (every event has a distinct identifier), and which one did the guy win? (I have never seen anyone who identified as an Arakan stylist compete in the UFC)

                          Or when you say UFC do you mean some random MMA promotion in Oz?

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                            #73
                            Hmm, i have no idea. I just asked one of my instructors last week.

                            "I heard that some guy fought in the UFC and got his ass wooped??"
                            "Nah he actually won it, there were some other guys who did it and thought they were better than they were."

                            That was the conversation.

                            I think the actual fight was years ago. like 10+ i havn't really watched any UFC. seen the odd fight or 2.

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by Arakan
                              *sigh*

                              It's not competetion. i've only been doing it for a year. What i ment was, i wouldn't be able to beat a blackbelt watever. They say i would be about at blue or brown belt level atm. Any blackbelt who fight on the street just because should have his belt taken away. thats not cool. average joe, no worries.
                              No. Your point was quite clear. You have no understanding of the reality of fighting. See, these schools teach to the uninitiated. You most likely have never been in a serious fight. I'm not talking ha ha shoving at school. I'm talking intent to harm and put you in the hospital. The type where you know you might get charged with assault.

                              "Billy badass" pft ok, yeh but he has had no martial arts training. i believe in myself that i would come out on top. unless he managed to knock me out in one hit from behind. We train for the worst case scenario. hit before you get hit. we are attackers not defenders.
                              That being said i would always try to talk my way out of a conflict. I would only use arakan if i had to.
                              There are more dead martial artists, that believed the same thing that you do, than you can imagine.
                              So i guess that clears up your point on functional.
                              No. The point was already clear. You have no clue.

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                                #75
                                Originally posted by Arakan
                                Hmm, i have no idea. I just asked one of my instructors last week.

                                "I heard that some guy fought in the UFC and got his ass wooped??"
                                "Nah he actually won it, there were some other guys who did it and thought they were better than they were."

                                That was the conversation.

                                I think the actual fight was years ago. like 10+ i havn't really watched any UFC. seen the odd fight or 2.
                                10 years ago? Wow get the names, or else someone is lying to you.

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