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    Originally posted by Erevan View Post
    No idea if its legit or not, but was at an expo a few years ago at a booth across from these guys. One of the instructors just slapped a training dummy regularly for about 3 hours. That was enough to turn me off it for life.

    Did it look anything like this?

    YouTube - Shen Kung Fu Training Dummy

    I've always wondered about the martial arts that advocate the slapping as a primary striking tool. Some of the kempo folks do it, the silat guys love it and I think the matrix fighting systems guy are fond of it too.

    I just don't know.

    Well, hopefully Sang will get one of these guys to spar and then hopefully he'll be able to video tape it... Hopefully.
    Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
    and remember what peace there may be in silence.
    As far as possible, without surrender,
    be on good terms with all persons.
    Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
    and listen to others,
    even to the dull and ignorant;
    they too have their story.

    -excerpt of the poem called "Desiderata," by Max Ehrman, 1927.

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      Originally posted by JP View Post
      I've always wondered about the martial arts that advocate the slapping as a primary striking tool. Some of the kempo folks do it, the silat guys love it and I think the matrix fighting systems guy are fond of it too.

      I just don't know.
      Open hand strikes aren't meant to be slaps. If they are slaps, then they're done wrong, to put it simply and bluntly. Open hand palm strikes use the lower half of the palm toward (but not at) the wrist.

      The mechanism behind open-palm strikes are akin to throwing a ball, except at the point where a ball is released, the target is struck with the palm. Like a ball throwing action, the power is derived by anchoring the feet to the ground, violent turning of the hips and body, with the arm largely relaxed. When targeting the face, the palm should strike the soft part of the jaw near the cheek with the fingers toward the opponent's ear. When performed with the correct mechanics, it's quite a nasty hit, with most people feeling a shocking "rattle" of the brain and momentary disorientation.

      Those who are incompetent at the strike will either slap using the fingers or the base of the fingers, or they push like launching a shot-put. Even worse, some people fall over because they over-commit.

      The open palm is preferred over a closed fist for striking the head, because it is less likely to result in an injured hand for the striker. It is also easy to transition between parries using the palm and strikes to the head, allowing easy transition between striking range to trapping or clinching range without having to learn different hand shapes for each.

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        hmm I wonder if this is really going to happen... 1 more day until the 12th! I'm curious to know as well. But I'm in Canberra and I can't be @rsed flying to brisbane just to satisfy my curiousity.

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          Originally posted by Sang View Post
          if we can find an Arakan for me to spar i'd be happy to do it after my fight on the 12th of September.
          Find me one.

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            Oh - I thought you were going to give them a call and turn up to one of their free lesson.

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              If i'm injury free i'll do that next weekend. This is a pyramid scheme based on a completely fabricated martial art. There is a special place in hell reserved for scammers.

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                I skipped the middle, so correct me if I've got this wrong.

                You guys found this "ancient Burmese fighting," one of them finds you back.

                We send an Aussie member (or he volunteered) to go test these guys for real.

                Did they accept a challenge? Or is this one of those things where you show up, throw the letter at them and say "let's do this," taking care to break their sign afterwards?

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                  This isn't YMAS Conde, you are expected to actually read the threads here before posting.

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                    Sorry, it's 19 pages long and it's pretty late over here. All I'm looking for is a quick summary of events.

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                      I've been curious for a long time if Arakan is total bullshit or not, so am very interested to see how this goes.

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                        Yeh, its a much anticipated event in my calendar! Can't wait... hopefully it goes through - some videos would be nice :D

                        If i'm ever in the gold coast again, I'll even shout you a beer - if you get the vids.

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                          Originally posted by 2Many View Post
                          Treatise on palm strikes.
                          Thanks for the quick redux on how to hit somebody with the palm of your hand.

                          But there's a reason I used the word slap and not palm strike.

                          And what I see most often from arts like some silats, kempo, and matrix, and now arakan, are slaps.

                          Which is a slap that at most might have a slight dropping of weight to give it a little oomph, but mostly they're arm strikes.

                          Not properly loaded palm strikes either taught as jabs and crosses, or swinging strikes similar to those used in pigua.

                          But since a lot of these folks don't spar, they don't know you're not going to stop anybody determined with a hit like that.

                          I can't find it, but Rodney King of Crazy Monkey Defense fame used to have an instructional of how to hit with the palm in a way that made sense.
                          Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
                          and remember what peace there may be in silence.
                          As far as possible, without surrender,
                          be on good terms with all persons.
                          Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
                          and listen to others,
                          even to the dull and ignorant;
                          they too have their story.

                          -excerpt of the poem called "Desiderata," by Max Ehrman, 1927.

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                            The Rodney King video I have is only about how "the fastest way to knock someone out is an open-hand slap to the back of the head." He talks about working an angle and some minor clinch stuff to get the head down so you can slap it, if I remember correctly. Been a while since I last watched it.

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                              Originally posted by Conde Koma View Post
                              The Rodney King video I have is only about how "the fastest way to knock someone out is an open-hand slap to the back of the head." He talks about working an angle and some minor clinch stuff to get the head down so you can slap it, if I remember correctly. Been a while since I last watched it.
                              That's not the one.

                              This one was just a simple video about body mechanics and rotation to produce power.
                              Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
                              and remember what peace there may be in silence.
                              As far as possible, without surrender,
                              be on good terms with all persons.
                              Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
                              and listen to others,
                              even to the dull and ignorant;
                              they too have their story.

                              -excerpt of the poem called "Desiderata," by Max Ehrman, 1927.

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                                This weekend is out, picked up a few injuries from my Muay Thai fight. It wouldn't be fair to do a review of the class if i'm physically unable to do their training, bullshido or not. To show i'm not a dirty liar fight footage will be available in a couple of weeks once the promoter has sent out the dvd.

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