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**TheDingo** · 5/03/2006 5:27pm,

Originally posted by porch

They're more like Hitler comitting systematic genocide and not even saying sorry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Eeeeech.... I think the thread is nearing it's dying days.....

**Askari** · 5/03/2006 5:51pm,

Originally posted by TheDingo

Eeeeech.... I think the thread is nearing it's dying days.....

In that case I invoke the codical of the never ending thread.

I am sure if I slag Shadow Beast a little bit we could get 10 or 20 pages of flames.

BTB, Shadow, I see that you've changed your style heading. Though by now you should know that Aiki Jiu-Jitsu =/= Japanese Jiu-Jitsu, so you should have AJJ up there instead of JJJ.

**TKD Black Belt** · 5/03/2006 6:16pm,

Originally posted by Askari

In that case I invoke the codical of the never ending thread.

I am sure if I slag Shadow Beast a little bit we could get 10 or 20 pages of flames.

BTB, Shadow, I see that you've changed your style heading. Though by now you should know that Aiki Jiu-Jitsu =/= Japanese Jiu-Jitsu, so you should have AJJ up there instead of JJJ.

With collective glee the FSD instructors gather around waiting for what can only be a dream for them. Not since Seafood was able to get them a discount on silk and hair products has there been this much buzz around the pagoda. Hmm, maybe now is the time to launch plan B of the attack?

I'm sure if we shake the FSD tree once or twice more we can shake down a monkey or some rotten fruit. Seems this tree is a wash with them.

Although I feel like the blind man describing an elephant I'm reassured in the belief that this can not be close to the end of the stories. When fact is stranger than fiction one always wonders at how much of the whole story has been kicked into the harsh glare of the sun?

TKD

**TheDingo** · 5/03/2006 6:27pm,

Got a flyer in my mailbox about FSD...

I like the headline "Get Fit For Life-In Just 3 Months-Guaranteed!"

So if three months doesn't get me fit for THE REST OF MY LIFE, I can have my money back? So if any time between now and when I become worm food, I become out of shape, I can have all my money back?

Sounds like a deal -- but the headline just doesn't make sense. Now it was "Get Fit in just 3 months -- Guaranteed" it would be easier to swallow.

And, a free trial month is actually called a "VIP pass".

I guess it goes back to Tony Robbin's marketing -- making the lowest common denominator feel special.

Reminds me when I used to work in advertising, and a private college opened up a "fashion/esthetics" school, and I was told that the person I was to target as the ad writer/creative was the person on the couch without ambition, get them in, get their money and send them out with a "passable" diploma.

It wasn't a serious esthetics program, so don't aim to people with talent and realistic goals, but more to get whatever slackers you can to enrol, take on expensive student loans and give you their money.

I have the same feeling about FSD's marketing strategy overall. "Give us money, we'll make you feel tough".

I still have the access to the member's site of FSD, and I checked it out and it gave me the willies ... "Join the Inner Circle for just $97 per month"... so that's $175 _+ $97 per month. Then I could join the leadership team with gives me the faint hope of one day opening a franchise if I just give-give-give them my money.

Bah.

**PeterPantsless** · 5/03/2006 6:35pm,

Dingo. Can you acess the "matrix" video on the members' site? I've seen it, but I don 't have access. The video is pure bullshido gold!

**Askari** · 5/03/2006 6:36pm,

Hey Dingo,
Interesting stuff.

You dont happen to have a scanner do you? We've been putting their adverts up in the history thread.

Also, what else is in this member's site?

**shadow beast** · 5/03/2006 6:41pm,

Originally posted by Askari

Also, what else is in this member's site?

bunch of stuff from the student manual (those sheets you fill out, etc) all the videos thats on the cd-rom of the seminars and camp, 2 christmas party videos, 1 matrix style (lol) and some other one.

pictures from all the schools, if your a reg member, you get "join the bbc!" ad's, but if your a bbc member you get "join the inner circle!" ad's, and if your a inner circle member, i guess you get the "join the leadership program!" ad's lol

thats about it.

edit: guys if you wanna see the matrix video, i am downloading if off the site, i can put it on youtube, or any of the other videos. let me know which you wanna see.

**Askari** · 5/03/2006 6:52pm,

Just post us the links, I for one want to see this matrix video. But will happily watch and enjoy anything you find.

**shadow beast** · 5/03/2006 6:54pm,

yep no prob, i am uploading them on youtube right now, not sure if i can post it directly from the site, gimmie just one min

here we go,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRwnmTmDG9k

thats the matrix one.^^

and here is the other one, thats all i can get, only 2 have download options.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUTyqLde0X0

and a pic for fun.

**shadow beast** · 5/03/2006 7:23pm,

pic and videos added.

(sorry for double post)

**Askari** · 5/03/2006 7:29pm,

Made up crap!

Thanks Shadow Beast,

Did you take the picture of the front of their club?

Remember that buddy you had in grade 9 or 10, yeah, you know the one that thought he was a ninja? And he used to make up shit, and dance around with a sword. Yeah, you know the guy.

That is what those videos look like to me.

Compare the crappy sword work during the FSD Matrix with this old guy doing Iaido (Link). Specifically look at how stead the sword is when the old guy finishes a movement. Look at how he knows in advance where he is going to put the sword and how controlled each movement is.

Then look at how sloppy the weapons work in the FSD video is. That is a huge difference between FSD and a real Martial Art.

And its supposed to be "Mind over Matter" not "Mind IN Matter" Damn who edited that FSDMatrix video, at least they could have checked their Henglish.

**shadow beast** · 5/03/2006 7:33pm,

no prob

I wish i took another weapons martial art in the past to compare fsd's weapon work with, but i didnt, so i cant comment on that.

but yeah, it's very funny, i love the glass walking, lol

edit: oh the pic is from there picture folders on the member part of the site, they got pics of all the schools, classes, etc.

**It is Fake** · 5/03/2006 7:47pm,

Thanks SH B.

Wow. Just Wow. I felt my shitty system sucked (still do) but, it does feel good to see something worse. Those kicks were the crappiest kicks I've seen from athletic Martial arts people.

Supposedly good if they are in the video.

**GreenHornet** · 5/03/2006 9:02pm,

Wow, its been quite a while since Ive seen FSD in "action" and I really see the crapiness clearly this time... The moves are so lousy and without power, and surprise surprise not even a second of sparring.

btw there is a new member at bullshido: fsd management, he has no post, but I bet we can count on him to keep this thread going :)

**It is Fake** · 5/03/2006 9:30pm,

Well, I was going to PM Shadow but, it was to late. You'll see what I'm talking about in a little bit.

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