Fang Shen Do

[Corvus]

Agreed Green Hornet.

I realized that after I posted the second time that it probably would have come across as stupidity. Sorry about that...

Quick question for you - how did you "escape" unscathed? Did you have a contract?

[GreenHornet]

like I said few pages away: no I had no contract because I started a while ago and during that time they were no contracts. I paid every year, they were happy...
The best way to get out? STFU and wait till your subscription is over. Before they ask you for your subscription renewal, leave.

But the bestest way to leave them is to never join...
Chew on that for a while.

[Askari]

Also from what I've heard, he doesn't get along with his father very well (wich would explain why Martin his the numero uno after his father in the system...)

I had wondered why number 2 son was in charge.

[Doctor X]

Seems to me the easiest thing to do is to just let him spend his money and find out for himself. If 90-odd pages are not enough to disuade someone. . . .

Knowledge is learning from experience. Wisdom is learn from someone else's experience. [Cue Gong--Ed.]

--J.D.

[Corvus]

like I said few pages away: no I had no contract because I started a while ago and during that time they were no contracts. I paid every year, they were happy...
The best way to get out? STFU and wait till your subscription is over. Before they ask you for your subscription renewal, leave.

But the bestest way to leave them is to never join...
Chew on that for a while.

Wow - damned if you do and damned if you don't here, huh? Fair enough.

"But the bestest way to leave them is to never join...Chew on that for a while." Wow - what a tidbit of genius THAT statement is. Bravo.

[BoardHitBack]

Corvus- glad to see you on the way out man. When you are able to, I'd love to hear what happened to make you see the forest. I understand it might be difficult right now- but people keep telling patience is a virtue, so I guess it will help develop that in me! Truth is I been hoping you would get back to us on this. I'd advise dropping by stringfellow's blog and sorting out your exit strategy first tho. Until then, I'll wait with baited breath.

well done.

[Haru_the_larger]

to bring something new to this thread: did you know that FSD was not only bad for the student, but also for the sifus? I have heard that Stephane P. did not want to be a martial artist in the beginning, but a professionnal baseball player. Now I think he became a sifu because he could not acheive his dreams and because of the incessant pressure of his family. Also from what I've heard, he doesn't get along with his father very well (wich would explain why Martin his the numero uno after his father in the system...)
Almost the same story goes for Scott Hill. I've heard that he wanted to be a football pro but because of an injury he couldn't do it.

Man FSD seems to be the land of the broken dreams for some people...

PS: I have no sources to back up this, so of course we must consider them as rumors. It would be sad if it was true ...
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I have heard references to Stephane P. wanting to be a baseball player during my time in FSD. I do not remember who told me though. The story was very short and went something like this:

Stephane walked away from FSD for a while to try and become a professional baseball player. JP let him go to explore his dreams. Eventually Stephane gave up on his dream of becoming a pro baseball player and returned to training in FSD.

As I said, it is a short story.

As for Sifu Scott Hill, I believe that he played for either the Ottawa Bootleggers in the Empire Football League or the Ottawa Sooners. I went googling and couldn't find anything but I was not too surprised as it was almost twenty years ago.

[El-Wood]

sweet jesus - I actually read the first 20 or so pages of this - did that scott fellow ever post any proof of his competition claim?

[Askari]

sweet jesus - I actually read the first 20 or so pages of this - did that scott fellow ever post any proof of his competition claim?

No. :qshatter:

His version of proof probably wouldnt stand up to intensive scrutiny anyway, so why would they want that claim to be completely debunked too?

Did you check out the Sordid History or the Clips of Disaster threads?

[TKD Black Belt]

sweet jesus - I actually read the first 20 or so pages of this - did that scott fellow ever post any proof of his competition claim?

I take it it made for good reading? My sister-in-law started reading it over my shoulder the other day and had me stick her on page one to start the whole saga at the beginning. I was impressed that this thread made sense to someone who isn't part of 'the scene' as it were. I was also happy that she found a number of posts humerous.

TKD

Forget Rickson by Arm Bar; Evan by Flying Triangle!

[Crazy Mount]

Holy Shit!!!

Go away for Easter and miss 12 pages! It took me almost an hour to read through what I missed. Now I put my training back an hour and will have to stay up till midnight to catch up.

I'm sorry to say it shadow beast but you are the one sounding like a maniac. Not in all posts this is true, but most. I feel for you though, wanting to waste your dollars on FSD, but it is not my money. Also, I grew up on a farm surrounded by push parties and drunken fights. I do not keep track of each of those as a record and then later call it MMA. (Just to clarify, I think that was silly on your part) Hell if that was the case, like Askari said, I have a 200-0-2 MMA record. Yeah! It's good that you are sparring though. I have taken FSD in Montreal and would be happy to answer your other questions, but what I'd really like is for you to come here and post after you get screwed over by Fang shen don't.

Corvus, I would be glad to help you in any way you need to get out of Fang Shen Don't. I had a contract and broke it so I might be of some use to you also. Really, all you need to do is be firm and don't take any of their bullshit. Don't let them intimidate you good fellow, it can not be backed up.

[wagamichi]

I have a 200-0-2 MMA record

Wow? Have I seen you on TV?

[TKD Black Belt]

...um no cause it was like at this place without TV and um, you can't call either cause they don't have um telephones and ah I can't tell you where it is cause um they blindfolded me....

TKD

One time at band camp, I met this girl....

[shadow beast]

Well dam guys, i dont know why, but i cannot stay away from this forum! i tried to stay away cause tkd blackbelt hurt my feelings and all *cries*

but i could not help it!

and crazy mount, thanks for the offer, their are things that i am still curious about fsd, mainly the BBC, and how the sifu's in montreal are..

did you want to answer them here? msn? yahoo messenger? icq? aim? letter by mail? lol either way, let me know where you want to talk, and i will ask away, if i ask here ill just ignore tkd's mean posts! you big meanie! :icon_mrgr:icon_tong

edit: and i am honestly sorry guys, i tend to take things to seriously sometimes, and i hate it when i dont say anything wrong to people, yet they start with the insults, thats all..

but yeah tkd, i'd have a ball sparring with you, and also, the sparring we did was full contact, people got broken noses, busted lips, bumps, ect ect.

[BoardHitBack]

but yeah tkd, i'd have a ball sparring with you, and also, the sparring we did was full contact, people got broken noses, busted lips, bumps, ect ect.

He says to the man listed on fcfighter

did you want to answer them here? msn? yahoo messenger? icq? aim? letter by mail?

Why the constant urge to get people from posting their opinions here? I don't buy your excuse you prefer to speak in private at all. It seems to me you are trying very hard to bring the discussion of FSD's inadequency as a fighting system, the manifold flaws of its teachers and their lack of valuable qualifications and the rip-off mcdojos the organisation franchises out like dirty spores in a private realm as opposed to a public one.