Fang Shen Do

[Cdnronin]

Ah, but i am interested in it :p

I have been reading alot of white crane and wing chun in the last hour, talked to the sifu there for about 15 min(nice guy)

and its about 500$ cheaper, still reading on it, lol.

thanks alot for all the advice guys, keep it coming :toothy9:

$500 buys a lot of pigs knuckles at the Riemark tavern:cachas:
seriously, sounds like you've done your JJJ and Karate phase, if you want to check out Kung Fu, and have the option of Wing Chun and White crane, go for it, especially if the price is right. Check out the school, see what YOU think about it.

[PeterPantsless]

dictionary69. I am curious to know your opinions on the FSD videos that were posted here.

Has anyone seen the FSD matrix video? It was on the official site, but you have to login to view it. Does anyone still have login capabilities?

[It is Fake]

GO TRY FSD.

Quit looking for approval from us. Everything you need to know about hidden fees, secret clubs, contracts, technique, and cost are in these threads and in the articles.

You are looking for validation that we, as a group, cannot give. Go to each school and if they don't spar join.

If you are looking for no contact join wushu. You will get flexibility, endurance, forms, philosphy and no fighting.

Of course you will be doing a Martial Dance not a Martial(Fighting) Art. Although, this is what it sounds like you are looking for in your training.

[Stringfellow]

also, i was told everything is included in the fsd membership, belts, tests, uniform, book, cd, posters, lol everything, what if i pay, then when test time comes i am told to pay for that too? i would say no, i payed already.

Unless you can get that in writing (and by "in writing" I mean something legal that both you and the owner sign), I wouldn't believe it.

I understood that my tests were all paid for, and when they asked me to pay for my last test I reminded them of that. I was told that everybody pays for the last three tests (brown, brown/black, and black), regardless of what program they signed up for. Those three tests combined will set you back somewhere around $1000.

You'll also likely have to pay for your weapons tests (two required to get your black). There aren't any CDs that I'm aware of (except the promotional one that PeterPantless has discussed - it's just advertising, no meat there). DVDs you'll pay for.

As for the uniform, let's call it what it is - a t-shirt. You'll probably need more than one (unless you do laundry every day). You'll also need the poofy-pants (you may already have those from a prior art). If you go for the tunic you'll pay. And then if you join the BBC you'll need a different tunic (it's gray).

The book you'll get. It's a 50-page duotang. You'll get the material up to and including blue sash. Later on, you'll get the green-to-black pages.

Of course, all of the seminars are optional, except for the ones that are required for advancement. You'll also need to attend at least one training camp ($500).

You do get the posters, though. One when you get your white sash (hand techniques), one when you get your yellow sash (lin sil die dar - this is the one in the article), and one when you get your green sash (mook jong).

If you don't get it in writing, they will change it on you later.

Try this. When you go back, get them to write down what you'll pay as your monthly fee. Then get them to list each and every requirement that you'll need (and its associated cost) to get to black sash. Then come back here and I'll tell you what they missed. My guess is that you'll never get that list. Instead you'll get a lot of generalizations and they'll say "don't worry" a lot.

[shadow beast]

GO TRY FSD.

Quit looking for approval from us. Everything you need to know about hidden fees, secret clubs, contracts, technique, and cost are in these threads and in the articles.

You are looking for validation that we, as a group, cannot give. Go to each school and if they don't spar join.

If you are looking for no contact join wushu. You will get flexibility, endurance, forms, philosphy and no fighting.

Of course you will be doing a Martial Dance not a Martial(Fighting) Art. Although, this is what it sounds like you are looking for in your training.

well actually, i didnt say i wont spar, i said i wont spar right away, when i started boxing they made me spar on the first day when i couldnt even punch, its not suppose to work that way, you learn first, then spar.

I am going to try the white crane/wing chun school tonight, and the fang shen do tomorrow, see which i like, i know one is way cheaper then the other, but ill find out more when i go.

[It is Fake]

well actually, i didnt say i wont spar, i said i wont spar right away, when i started boxing they made me spar on the first day when i couldnt even punch, its not suppose to work that way, you learn first, then spar.

Trial by error.

Here is what you said.

even though i am a big, mean looking guy, i really dont like to spar, not when i first start learning anyway, in the past i would not spar for a good 8 months, I look at it as I am paying all the money not to get hurt while sparring, but just to learn, so is it true that they dont force you to spar unless you want to at the fsd schools? thats what i was told, only spar if you want to.

This is why I told you to do wushu. The way that paragraph is written you are looking for a school that minimizes or negates sparring.

Now, if you are willing to spar you need to look at to criteria.

1) Self Defense.

2) Hobbyist


If you are looking for number one you need to spar and train with non-compliant partners.

If it is going to be number 2 you need to find another forum. Hobbyists tend to be gullible to Mcdojos and bullshido.

[shadow beast]

Trial by error.

Here is what you said.






This is why I told you to do wushu. The way that paragraph is written you are looking for a school that minimizes or negates sparring.

Now, if you are willing to spar you need to look at to criteria.

1) Self Defense.

2) Hobbyist


If you are looking for number one you need to spar and train with non-compliant partners.

If it is going to be number 2 you need to find another forum. Hobbyists tend to be gullible to Mcdojos and bullshido.

Yeah i get this shit alot, i dont care what i said, what i was trying to say is I DONT WANT TO SPAR WHEN I FIRST START, i will spar as i learn, say a few months i become good, i spar, thats it.

I dont like the connection with fsd, YOU HAVE TO GIVE A BLANK CHEQUE OR CREDIT CARD, no cash payments, i dont work that way, gyms have screwed me over with that, taking out money when there not suppose to.

Tonight i am going to the class i said, which is the white crane and wing chun (one or the other, cant do both i dont think)

its tons cheaper then fsd, and they dont have you by the balls with your bank account or credit card.

[TKD Black Belt]

This is getting a little far off field. The reason behind this thread was and still is to debunk Fang Shen Do not to give reassurances to someone on a fishing trip for help. Shadow Beast, you sound as though you have your mind made up and are looking for one person to agree with you so that you will feel validated. If you don't want to spar go do Yoga or Tai Chi. The Montreal club mentioned a while back (Associated with Doug Brothers) is a BTT affiliated school. You can't (IMO) get a better school for your money Gamma is also an option in Montreal.

As for Feng Shan Do/Fang Shen Do/Feng Shen Don't, dude if you don't want to believe the abundance of information on this thread then there isn't much we can say is there.

Sort of sounds like you've already smelt the poop! But that's just my opinion.

TKD

Just cause I wear silk doesn't mean I'm ghey, I just like how the fabric feels!

PS - As a proud french speaking Anglo I feel it is my right to make fun of any Quebecois who is butchering a language. As I said, French with subtitles would have been fine!

[Ken]

Actually, maybe just do Yoga.... Tai Chi has push hands. :)

[TKD Black Belt]

Hmm, good call Ken. Mind you from what I heard a week of Secret Elbow strike #12 was enough to incapacitate a top ranking Fang Shen Don't instructor. Maybe Fang Shen Don't is the option!

TKD

"There are many colours in the homo rainbow." Mickey Ween

[shadow beast]

You guys make me laugh, when did i say i made up my mind about the fang shen do? i said a few times i am going tonight to try a class of wing chun, and i did try it.

[It is Fake]

Yeah i get this shit alot, i dont care what i said, what i was trying to say is I DONT WANT TO SPAR WHEN I FIRST START, i will spar as i learn, say a few months i become good, i spar, thats it.

Then learn how to type. Then you will get much less shit, it is that simple.

Don't correct me when YOU make a mistake.

[shadow beast]

well actually, i didnt say i wont spar, i said i wont spar right away, when i started boxing they made me spar on the first day when i couldnt even punch, its not suppose to work that way, you learn first, then spar.

I am going to try the white crane/wing chun school tonight, and the fang shen do tomorrow, see which i like, i know one is way cheaper then the other, but ill find out more when i go.

read this, i clearly said what i said in this post from the other page.

I tried the wing chun school, and i loved it, i am joining friday.

[GreenHornet]

ok were glad that you found a MA school... Now can we go back on the punking of FSD please? thanks!

[shadow beast]

ok were glad that you found a MA school... Now can we go back on the punking of FSD please? thanks!

Ok, umm, I hear that fsd costs alot, they treat the students like there in boot camp, they try to force you to stay when you want to quit, anything else? lol

At the wing chun school i am signing up for/tried today, 2 students tried the fsd school a while ago, they said all the same things that you guys say.

:new_argue