Fang Shen Do

[TKD Black Belt]

The only Scott Hill listed on FCFighter.com's database has a win over an 0-9 fighter. Is this him?

[Askari]

I heard that Jacques even claimed to be a WCD instructor under DeMille for awhile. I remember there being some controversy as to actual JP's qualification with regards to WCD and that he may have been claiming more then DeMille qualified him to..

TKDBB, nope, different guy. My main speculation was that the event is either a fabrication or the equivilent of a low rules "Tough Man" event.

[Shawarma]

I found mention of a Scott Hill who fought at an event called the ICE where he lost to somebody named Scott Bickerstaff at 0.50 by tapout from strikes.

Apparently, there's more than one Scott Hill in circulation.

Source: http://www.mmaringreport.com/index.p...=487&Itemid=57

Edit: Ah, it's the same Scott Hill TKD and I are talking about. Has a 1-2-0 record though, so I doubt it's him.

I found no mention of a Pat Marcil however.

[Shawarma]

For the MMA sifus: http://www.imageshack.us/

You can upload any relevant image files there. Easily done.

[TKD Black Belt]

Please people, the MMA community in Canada is so freakin' small that I promise you if these guys competed in a legit MMA event, I can find it in less than 3 phone calls!

TKD

[Cdnronin]

Please people, the MMA community in Canada is so freakin' small that I promise you if these guys competed in a legit MMA event, I can find it in less than 3 phone calls!

TKD

Hokay,hokay, so what's stopping you already? C'mon, check it out!

[TKD Black Belt]

I did, I showed you the names of the people I could search. Lets hear when and where they fought and I promise the results will be up in a day or two.

TKD

[PeterPantsless]

[Askari]

I have researched and searched their claims to death. I have emailed promoters and spoken to friends in Montreal. No such event seems to have ever taken place. There is no outside verifiable proof.

Even the alleged proof of the newspapers has never shown up, and we all know how much we can trust the newspapers to get things about MMA right, remember the propoganda of John McCain anyone?

This event did not take place, it is a continued fabrication on the part of a group of absolute bullshit artists.

Nothing on fcfighter, nothing on sherdog, nothing on a legit promoters website.

Case closed, they are lying, at best they entered a toughman competition and are claiming it was MMA. Good luck with that.

[Jaric]

Beware Askari, soon your truth telling abilities will get out of hand and ninjas will come to get you!!!:evil7:

[TKD Black Belt]

"We told people who were close to us about the fight. Had we told everyone, people would have accused us of being braggarts, because we kept it to ourselves we are accused of secrecy - seems like you can't win"

I had breakfast today, it was mixed oats and grains. Man it was freakin' fantastic. I was going to mix some protein powder in as well for a boost but decided instead to just have the grains.

Oh, I'm sorry, what I meant to say was cough*bullshit*cough.....

TKD

[Shawarma]

Come now, Askari, give the FSD crowd a little more time to post the pictures. Although the prolonged wait really doesn't do their credibility any favours.

[PeterPantsless]

n00b. Did you have a chance to discuss anything with any of the sifus yet?

[dictionary69]

Hey askari did you find the balls to go at the Orleans school yet? I read that the sifu there called you out but you quickly changed the subject. You will find out very quickly that he is for real. I used to be an instructor at the school and witnessed guys like you that wanted to find out and got their butt kicked that claimed that their grappling skills be succesfull but these guys can and will grapple no problem. For the claims that these guys didn't participate well go at the school and see for yourself the poster and articles are all on the walls for everyone to see and this is three years ago man just get over it you silly boy!!

[Askari]

Well, the kool-aiders return.

If you read the thread you will see that I called him out. He has yet to turn up for an open tournament in front of the world. They are more then welcome to try me in front of everyone. I don't hide behind closed doors, just a screen name (Grin).

Closed door is not mine or any legit Martial Artists style. The tournament circuit in Ontario and Quebec is very legit and I fight regularly. As I have posted before, I will post the results of any FSD fighters that I see in tournaments or that I fight myself. Even if I dont have the opportunity to face one, if they do well I will report back here. If they do poorly, I will report that as well.

At this time, there has yet to be an FSD fighter in a tournament that I have seen.

And dictionary69, I may have already tried an intro class.

If you have any video of an FSD guy surviving against a legit BJJ fighter (coloured belt preferably - blue, purple etc), I and everyone on this board would love to see it.

Please keep posting as every post you put up moves these threads up in the google hit meter and will eventually make us the number one hit for Fang Shen Do on the internet.