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    Just watching some early UFC Clips

    I can't help this sounding like Troll bait...

    But... ROYCE GRACIE OWNED EVERYONE!!!

    Now, 10 years later, studying GJJ, I can see the same techniques I study. Pretty cool, except everyone else and their damn brother knows it now, so I can't OWN anyone as bad!

    Just a little mini rant, courtesy of the big bald asian guy in the corner. =o)



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    A man without a plan, is not a man...

    Nietsche
    Originally posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".

    #2
    Tell me about it. Its one of the reasons I hated the UFC. Now everybody knows how to grapple. <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>

    Go away I'm talking to myself

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      #3
      No avatar yet O, I gotta give it to Phrost. I just put up a shot of me getting choked by Rener Gracie. I almost passed out, but you can notice the bliss on my face being choked out by the one of the next generation of Gracie Fighters!

      http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/abuan/vwp?.dir=/Anthony_A&.dnm=Rener+Gracie+choking+moi.jpg&am p;.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t

      NOTICE ASIA... Rener cannot get around to the back of my head to fully lock it and had to modify it for my large neck and head. I'm not saying it didn't hurt though, he almost killed me. =o)

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, ATLANTA!!! Can't wait!


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      A man without a plan, is not a man...

      Nietsche

      Edited by - anthony_a on April 11 2003 22:46:54

      Edited by - anthony_a on April 11 2003 22:49:00

      Edited by - anthony_a on April 11 2003 23:42:00
      Originally posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
      "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".

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        #4
        I loved the early UFCs, because supposedly all the TMAs got their asses kicked, even though a lot made it pretty far.

        And here I eagerly await everyone to say that any TMA who did well in the UFC (like, say, Kimo) was in fact using Muay Thai or Streetfighting or Wrestling and simply lying about their style.

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          #5
          Thats ok Anthony I will just pummel you into submission. I thought I would go easy on you but now I will have to bust out the BAJI! Baby!!!!

          Who shall I notify for next of kin?

          Uhm to add to that Boyd, WRESTLING is TMA also. And Kimo claimed TKD.

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            #6
            Except that one guy named Saku-something or other. I forget.

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              #7
              danny, sakuraba was in pride.



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              A man without a plan, is not a man...

              Nietsche
              Originally posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
              "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".

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                #8
                "Not really. Most of the world still does tkd. Pwnage."

                Not really most of the world does Wing Tsun. 0wnage <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

                Kimo: Yeah LOL @ Kimo claiming TKD or that he did MT <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> You have to admit - he was wearing MT style shorts. But he didn't seem to use much of either, did he? He didn't actually win any of his UFC matches either.

                LOL, found out he fought "Bam Bam Bigelow"[of WWf fame.]

                Really, not that many people know how to grapple overall, I mean in MMA yes, but not none-MAists in general.

                AA - Weeeell, he didn't own shamrock the second time around - they didn't do much at all, no ownage. Kimo did hurt royce fairly badly too, but royce would've/may have hurt him more had it gone on for a little longer (I mean possibly, with the arm bar and everything.)

                After UFC 1 or 2 nearly everybody was cross training.

                It's like the Ninjitsu guy - arm bars and strikes fromt the mount submissions? He [Jennum] beat the karate/JJJ world champion pretty quickly, after the karate guy TKOed a much smaller wrestler/MT guy (who was 0wning this karate man right before a good right hook sent him, the MT person, to the canvans.)

                It seems that every style that isn't Submission/Shoot Fighting/MMA etc is a TMA. SO I guess that would make BJJ, Judo an Boxing TMAs? They've been around for a while now.

                The Style doesn't really matter, as long as they're fighting properly. But then if they aren't going to fight properly with a certain style then it does matter, but as I say most cross trained soon after the first few UFCs (especially in grappling.)



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                  #9
                  Blade,

                  Shamrock the next time around studied BJJ and he still couldn't win... Same outcome =o)

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                  A man without a plan, is not a man...

                  Nietsche
                  Originally posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
                  "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".

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                    #10
                    danny, sakuraba was in pride.
                    Your point?

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                      #11
                      Anyone have any good suggestions for clips? I'm putting one together for my son, he broke his ankle and can't do anything. I bought him the Gracie Jiu Jitsu book by ADCC to read as well.

                      I'm thinking of getting him started up GJJ instead of football. He's only 8 but he's almost 100lbs. He's gonna make his little dad look, well... Little. =o)



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                      A man without a plan, is not a man...

                      Nietsche
                      Originally posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
                      "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".

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                        #12
                        danny, do you read? I am talking about early UFC fights. READ the thread title.



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                        A man without a plan, is not a man...

                        Nietsche
                        Originally posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
                        "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".

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                          #13
                          danny, do you read? I am talking about early UFC fights. READ the thread title.
                          Yes, quite well actually. What's your point. What's the point of this thread. Royce Gracie was a great fighter and he beat most/all of his opponents in the early UFC. Great. There's no point. It's redundant information, as anyone that isn't blind can see it for themselves.



                          Edited by - danny on April 12 2003 00:12:00

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                            #14
                            Danny, fuck off. If your comprehension is so lacking in basic reading skills, you are not worth my time.

                            Added: This thread is not directly about Royce and his domination at that time, but my own rant 10 years after the fact on how it has affected all fighting styles.

                            I figured I might as well explain it.




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                            A man without a plan, is not a man...

                            Nietsche

                            Edited by - anthony_a on April 12 2003 00:34:15
                            Originally posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
                            "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".

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                              #15
                              What! A Gracie won a UFC match! Thanks for the info!

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