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    #16
    >It's like the Ninjitsu guy - arm bars and strikes fromt the mount submissions? He [Jennum] beat the karate/JJJ world champion pretty quickly, after the karate guy TKOed a much smaller wrestler/MT guy (who was 0wning this karate man right before a good right hook sent him, the MT person, to the canvans.)

    Your right blade NO other art has arm bars and NO ONE EVER mounted someone and punched them. Oh great sage of MA. SHUT UP!!! BTW the guy was NOT a world KARATE and JJJ champion.


    >Shamrock the next time around studied BJJ and he still couldn't win... Same outcome =o)


    It was a draw if I remember and Ken didn't fight to when he fought to stalemate. He figured he got reckless the first think he was just going to plow over the guy so the next time he was more catious, WAY too catious.


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    THE TRUE FIST OF THE NORTHSTAR!!
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      #17
      Damn, you might be right Asia. I hate to admit it. =o) I thought Royce won that one.



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      A man without a plan, is not a man...

      Nietsche
      Originally posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
      "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".

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        #18
        Goddamn people Anthony A is just reminiscing! Man puts AK in his place and one day later it's, "What have you done for me lately?"

        **The most miraculous power that can verifiably be attributed to "chi" is its ability to be all things to virtually all people, depending on what version of the superstition they are attempting to defend at any given moment.**
        Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the fuck I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog

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          #19
          Damn, I'm just gonna go back to Ashida Kim's board. People are just kinder over there. <sniff>



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          A man without a plan, is not a man...

          Nietsche
          Originally posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
          "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".

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            #20
            W -
            "Man puts AK in his place and one day later it's, "What have you done for me lately?""

            That's cause he has to be sharp for Atlanta and some BAJI! guy. :-)

            "I do not agree with what you have to say but, I will defend to the death your right to say it."
            -Voltaire

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              #21
              DAMN RIGHT. Anthony may have been to first to actuall call AK on that silly little challenge and it was amusing reading the whining and nashing of teeth. But now you have to give us MORE. MORE DAMMIT MORE!!!!

              ______
              Xiao Ao Jiang Hu Zhi Dong Fang Bu Bai (Laughing Proud Warrior Invinsible Asia) Emporer of Baji!!!
              THE TRUE FIST OF THE NORTHSTAR!!
              ______
              Xiao Ao Jiang Hu Zhi Dong Fang Bu Bai (Laughing Proud Warrior Invincible Asia) Dark Emperor of Baji!!!

              RIP SOLDIER

              Didn't anyone ever tell him a fat man could never be a ninja
              -Gene, GODHAND

              You can't practice Judo just to win a Judo Match! You practice so that no matter what happens, you can win using Judo!
              The key to fighting two men at once is to be much tougher than both of them.
              -Daniel Tosh

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                #22
                I don't have anything left. <sniff>

                I'm all out of that majic mojo. <bigger sniff>

                I just wanna be loved. <tears>



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                A man without a plan, is not a man...

                Nietsche
                Originally posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
                "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".

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                  #23
                  That's it! I can't do it.

                  I'm gonna throw on some Sean Paul.

                  You want more, mang, I'll give you more!



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                  A man without a plan, is not a man...

                  Nietsche
                  Originally posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
                  "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".

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                    #24
                    "Not really most of the world does Wing Tsun. 0wnage"

                    Since when? Ive heard tkd.
                    That was the old most popular MA Osiris, WT is now "the most poplar MA in the world" <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

                    If its been around for a while its traditional. If its not new its been around for a while. Some submission fighting is traditional.
                    Osiris, Submission Fighting IS MMA, if you mean some grappling styles have been around for a while, then OK. "BJJ NO"!?!?!?!?!? WHy because it 0wned in the UFC? It's nearly as old as Judo lol! It's a VERY old MA now, I mean liek 60 years or more!

                    Who told you this?
                    This is my opinion - who do you know who knows anything about grappling WHO ISN'T an MAist? I don't know anyone, and anyway ALOT of MAist still don't know any grappling IMO.

                    "You say, "Nobody is going to pay Kim until there is some guarantee they will get what they paid for." The point is I'M NOT SELLING!" Ashida Kim
                    LOL, excellent quote Osiris, that just defines everything about the lastests "dealings" with AK. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

                    Asia: Alot of arts have arms bars I know, but IMO these Ninjitsu guys just added them from Judo or whatever. STrikes form the mount? Well come on that's really more of a street fighting thing, not used in MA that much - it was made obvios how effect this was by the advent of these MMA compeitions.

                    Shamrock the next time around studied BJJ and he still couldn't win... Same outcome =o)
                    Ken just held onto him, he wasn't confident enough to go for anything really effective IMO.
                    WAY too catious
                    Exactly...

                    Asia, sorry I didn't mean world champion:

                    Harold Howard. Hometown: Niagra Falls - Canada Styles.....:4 x Canadian Heavyweight
                    Karate Champion 2 x Canadian Heavyweight Jiu-Jitsu Champion.
                    However he is
                    including some well-known Ultimate punchers
                    like Canadian Karate Champion Harold Howard
                    a good puncher.

                    Oh, and something for San Soo to look at:

                    John Hess, who fought in the UFC, was a San Soo Black Belt (just to let you know)!

                    Btw - LOL @ AA (about ppl at AKs being kinder) and Asia - SOOOOO true - we need more! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>





                    Movie Quote: http://funwavs.com/wavfile.php?quote=603&view=1 - Full Metal Jacket

                    Edited by - Blade Windu on April 12 2003 01:23:28
                    "Training = pain." - I said that.

                    PizDoff when drunk: "I'm actually MOST pissed that my target for the evening got drink...then I gave her my Bullshido Canada hoodie like a gentleman because she was outside with not much on...did I mention she barfed twice when I got our jackets...steaming barf is kinda fascinating..." - PizDoff.

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                      #25
                      >It's nearly as old as Judo lol! It's a VERY old MA now, I mean liek 60 years or more!

                      I hope you were not serious.

                      >Alot of arts have arms bars I know, but IMO these Ninjitsu guys just added them from Judo or whatever. STrikes form the mount? Well come on that's really more of a street fighting thing, not used in MA that much - it was made obvios how effect this was by the advent of these MMA compeitions.

                      This is why you get your VIRTUAL SPANKINGS. You have no idea what ninjutsu really is where is I *pats enormous ego the size of AA's sumo belly* have studied trained and researched. So how can you say what they added.


                      ______
                      Xiao Ao Jiang Hu Zhi Dong Fang Bu Bai (Laughing Proud Warrior Invinsible Asia) Emporer of Baji!!!
                      THE TRUE FIST OF THE NORTHSTAR!!
                      ______
                      Xiao Ao Jiang Hu Zhi Dong Fang Bu Bai (Laughing Proud Warrior Invincible Asia) Dark Emperor of Baji!!!

                      RIP SOLDIER

                      Didn't anyone ever tell him a fat man could never be a ninja
                      -Gene, GODHAND

                      You can't practice Judo just to win a Judo Match! You practice so that no matter what happens, you can win using Judo!
                      The key to fighting two men at once is to be much tougher than both of them.
                      -Daniel Tosh

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                        #26
                        lol Asia.

                        Ok, Ninjitsu and Submission fighting have things in common (they both use striks fromt he mounts and armbars sooo), happy?

                        Yes, this is why i get my "VIRTUAL SPANKINGS" lol. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

                        You have no idea what ninjutsu really is
                        "no idea"? I hope you're not serious.

                        Well, Judo isn;t that old (in comparision to BJJ), I mean last century...


                        Lol I want an avator and signature pic like your's...NOW (o-great BAJI! Lord...)!



                        Movie Quote: http://funwavs.com/wavfile.php?quote=603&view=1 - Full Metal Jacket

                        Edited by - Blade Windu on April 12 2003 02:42:37
                        "Training = pain." - I said that.

                        PizDoff when drunk: "I'm actually MOST pissed that my target for the evening got drink...then I gave her my Bullshido Canada hoodie like a gentleman because she was outside with not much on...did I mention she barfed twice when I got our jackets...steaming barf is kinda fascinating..." - PizDoff.

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                          #27
                          >"no idea"? I hope you're not serious.

                          Of course I am. You failed to recognized the supreme Ashida Ryu Kuroi Ryu Hai Lung NinjItsu!!!

                          ______
                          Xiao Ao Jiang Hu Zhi Dong Fang Bu Bai (Laughing Proud Warrior Invinsible Asia) Emporer of Baji!!!
                          THE TRUE FIST OF THE NORTHSTAR!!
                          ______
                          Xiao Ao Jiang Hu Zhi Dong Fang Bu Bai (Laughing Proud Warrior Invincible Asia) Dark Emperor of Baji!!!

                          RIP SOLDIER

                          Didn't anyone ever tell him a fat man could never be a ninja
                          -Gene, GODHAND

                          You can't practice Judo just to win a Judo Match! You practice so that no matter what happens, you can win using Judo!
                          The key to fighting two men at once is to be much tougher than both of them.
                          -Daniel Tosh

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                            #28
                            "Not really most of the world does Wing Tsun."
                            maybe in your neck of the woods my English friend...
                            most people still have never heard of Wing Chun, but they sure as hell know Kung Fu, karate and TAE KWON DO!!! Remember North America represents a larger demographic than little Britain.
                            "That was the old most popular MA Osiris, WT is now "the most poplar MA in the world""
                            jeez man? according to who? BJJ is the new fad...

                            "I just wanna be loved. <tears>"
                            *cries with Anthony*

                            Osiris-""WHy because it 0wned in the UFC? It's nearly as old as Judo lol! It's a VERY old MA now, I mean liek 60 years or more!"

                            How is it traditional if it was just one clan doing it? As far as when the art was introduced, it is fairly new."

                            Who in the 1960's heard about Wing Chun? It wasn't really popularized until the 1970's.
                            Who in the 1930's heard about karate? It wasn't popular world wide or in North America until WW2 vets brought it home and abroad, therefore spurring the growth of MA's in NA.

                            *Hands Asia a paddle for Blade*

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                              #29
                              OK Asia, I didn't know you where an AK! and BAJI! follower.

                              Pizzd0rf - Wing Tsun is the most popluar MA in the world. Lots of ppl have heard of wing Tsun, it's just the "newer" MA, give it another few years and it'll be common place in the US. However, come to think of it, a lot of people would know what WIng Chun is, or would;ve heard of it already IMO....

                              No, see BJJ has become an alterbative to Judo, it IS NOT the most popular, WIng Tsun is the biggest organisation in the world, i.e. they have more members than any other organisation. I don't see BJJ classes being advertised on TV anywhere, how ever Wing Tsun is. Very popular.

                              FAD? Oh I knew it was bad, but does everyone in the highschools etc in American know what BJJ is? Fucking hell; it;s not like anyone/many will stay dedicated, Unlike Wingtsun where I guess, due to MUCH more people studying it, is taken more seriously. BJJ can be the type of MA that you'll just give up soon after you've started IMO. However, let me reinsatted - WT IS the most popular. It's know here, BJJ generally isn;t really. I think the same would go for the USA BUt remeber, Europe altogether resprenets a much larger demographic than just the US (eeeerrr I should most definitely think lol) and it's popular here.

                              baaaah whatever, I'm just saying ATM WT is the most popular :D



                              Movie Quote: http://funwavs.com/wavfile.php?quote=603&view=1 - Full Metal Jacket
                              "Training = pain." - I said that.

                              PizDoff when drunk: "I'm actually MOST pissed that my target for the evening got drink...then I gave her my Bullshido Canada hoodie like a gentleman because she was outside with not much on...did I mention she barfed twice when I got our jackets...steaming barf is kinda fascinating..." - PizDoff.

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                                #30
                                Care cite any statistics for those claims blade?

                                Edit: thanks Piz <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

                                Edited by - brandeissansoo on April 12 2003 13:19:18

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