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    I have been doing wrestling for about 3 weeks now and I hate it. Although I did very well in my old submission school, (I had to move) I suck at wrestling and I always end up on the bottom against guys who are like 30 lbs lighter than me. Is it just because I am new to it? Advice?

    #2
    armbar them, fuck the rules!! <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

    I think "Asia" will be able to help you on this.

    Can't you just try to use the guard/sweeps n stuff, pushing away with your hands/legs?
    They have good pinning combinations though don't they?


    oo wait wait, 30lbs lighter - try benching them off you <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>


    Movie Quote: http://funwavs.com/wavfile.php?quote=603&view=1 - Full Metal Jacket

    Edited by - Blade Windu on April 01 2003 20:33:37
    "Training = pain." - I said that.

    PizDoff when drunk: "I'm actually MOST pissed that my target for the evening got drink...then I gave her my Bullshido Canada hoodie like a gentleman because she was outside with not much on...did I mention she barfed twice when I got our jackets...steaming barf is kinda fascinating..." - PizDoff.

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      #3
      Is it just because I am new to it?
      Yes.

      Advice?
      Go to many classes, don't wrestle opponents too far above or below your abilities.

      **The most miraculous power that can verifiably be attributed to "chi" is its ability to be all things to virtually all people, depending on what version of the superstition they are attempting to defend at any given moment.**
      Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the fuck I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog

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        #4
        Quit jumping guard, you BJJ zombie!!

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          #5
          Sorry, but I can't give you any advice after you broke my heart with this thread's title. I was hoping it'd be about your inner conflict between your love for a Catholic girl and your desire to obey your ultraconservative Protestant upbringing.

          They don't call it the Nazi PARTY for nothing!
          Captain's Log: Just a little update for all my TRUE and HONEST friends out there:

          1) I am STRAIGHT! I am STRAIGHT! Get it through your thick skulls, numbskulls!

          2) My name is not Ian Brandon Something.

          3) Kacey is coming with me now. I have stolen her from the other Christian Weston Chandler.

          REMINDER: I am still the one and only true creator of sonichu and rosechu electric hedgehog pokemon

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            #6
            I actually thought this thread would be about the MA style of the KKK or something...

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              #7
              That was my original joke.

              They don't call it the Nazi PARTY for nothing!
              Captain's Log: Just a little update for all my TRUE and HONEST friends out there:

              1) I am STRAIGHT! I am STRAIGHT! Get it through your thick skulls, numbskulls!

              2) My name is not Ian Brandon Something.

              3) Kacey is coming with me now. I have stolen her from the other Christian Weston Chandler.

              REMINDER: I am still the one and only true creator of sonichu and rosechu electric hedgehog pokemon

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                #8
                As stupid as this sounds, concentrate on keeping your chest and stomach pointing towards the ground as much as possible. Some wrestling rooms have the signs on the ceilings that say "If you can read this, its too late" and other taunts. Pretty good reminders that wrestling is all about shoulders to the mat. Do a lot of drills where you start on bottom and have someone continually try to break you down and flip you over. Concentrate on doing sit-outs and reversals while trying to avoid being turned over. Also remember to practice escapes, even I forget about them when switching from sub wrestling to folkstyle. Other than that, just keep practicing and get some good books and/or videos to help.

                "Go cry about it Vargas. Aren't you late for your shift at McDonald's?"
                "I had once talked to Billy Conn, the boxer, about professionals versus amateurs - specifically street fighters. One had always heard rumors of champions being taken out by back-alley fighters. Conn was scornful. "Aw, it's like hitting a girl," he said. "They're nothing."


                - George Plimpton
                "Shadow Box"

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                  #9
                  Caol Uno does stuff like that quite a bit i guess, he does wrestling amongst other things. I mean he gives his back to BJJers and doesn't seem to care.

                  ""If you can read this, its too late" " i hehe, nice.



                  Movie Quote: http://funwavs.com/wavfile.php?quote=603&view=1 - Full Metal Jacket
                  "Training = pain." - I said that.

                  PizDoff when drunk: "I'm actually MOST pissed that my target for the evening got drink...then I gave her my Bullshido Canada hoodie like a gentleman because she was outside with not much on...did I mention she barfed twice when I got our jackets...steaming barf is kinda fascinating..." - PizDoff.

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                    #10
                    He also lets himself get knocked out in 13 seconds? But you know I guess all those sitouts worked for him when he had to get up from being knocked the fuck out.

                    Anyway, there are alot of wrestlers that come into my BJJ school and just spank me to the ground.

                    They can't ever really get mount, but their takedowns are superb and their strength and speed is astounding I have a hard time keeping up wtih them and they always get sidemount on me which is annoying.

                    Lots of like 24 to 30 year old beasts and it gets me down alot. Some a-hole that really ticked me off that has been there for like 4 1/2 months and I asked how long he had been there he said like 2 months and I'm like? No you haven't, so after wrestling he says how long have I been here? He asked if it was my first class and that REALLY pissed me off.

                    Especially since him and his friend come in there all the time and I school'd his friend. And he started pushing his elbows threw my jaw and that pissed me off more.

                    I kept my cool I was kinda ilke omg I am about to kick your fing ASS, but I restrained myself.
                    I'll make one when I can find one I like.

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                      #11
                      Here's a good book that might help you learn some of the fundamentals:

                      "Winning Wrestling Moves" by: Mark Mysnyk, Barry Davis and Brooks Simpson. forward by Dan Gable.

                      Here are some cool web pages with good articles:

                      http://www.thewrestlingmall.com/
                      http://www.themat.com/

                      http://www.brucebaumgartner.com/
                      http://www.wrestlinghalloffame.org/

                      Advice:

                      Stay on the balls of your feet, keep your knees bent and your center low, get wrist control, stay off your back, don't reach around, conditioning is important.

                      I'd say its just because you are new, stick with it, its worth it.

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                        #12
                        DRT,

                        You are going to have to break many habit you have from submission grappling.

                        Stay off your back. A good exercise to learn to keep face down is to get a partner and have him hold your head while you lean back to the point that he is keeping you up. When he gives the signal he will drop you and you turn to land face down.

                        (DON'T let them do the TACK trick it is more for their enjoyment than it is for you)

                        Also Wastrel is wrong.

                        WRESTLE SOMEONE BETTER THAN YOU. If you learn to defend against him think how you will do with someone closer to your skill level. Yeah you are going to get balled up but that is a test for you ego. If you can endure that and keep going you will be fine.

                        The BIGGEST thing that makes a wrestler is CONDITIONING. Yeah matches are 6 mins (2 three min rounds)but in practice try to go hard for 6 mins strainght. When you conditioning is up you will not only be a good wrestler but you will slapp punk ass BJJ guys around.
                        ______
                        Xiao Ao Jiang Hu Zhi Dong Fang Bu Bai (Laughing Proud Warrior Invincible Asia) Dark Emperor of Baji!!!

                        RIP SOLDIER

                        Didn't anyone ever tell him a fat man could never be a ninja
                        -Gene, GODHAND

                        You can't practice Judo just to win a Judo Match! You practice so that no matter what happens, you can win using Judo!
                        The key to fighting two men at once is to be much tougher than both of them.
                        -Daniel Tosh

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                          #13
                          Last key thing:

                          WRESTLING SUCKS!!!!!

                          ______
                          Xiao Ao Jiang Hu Zhi Dong Fang Bu Bai (Laughing Proud Warrior Invinsible Asia) Emporer of Baji!!!
                          THE TRUE FIST OF THE NORTHSTAR!!
                          ______
                          Xiao Ao Jiang Hu Zhi Dong Fang Bu Bai (Laughing Proud Warrior Invincible Asia) Dark Emperor of Baji!!!

                          RIP SOLDIER

                          Didn't anyone ever tell him a fat man could never be a ninja
                          -Gene, GODHAND

                          You can't practice Judo just to win a Judo Match! You practice so that no matter what happens, you can win using Judo!
                          The key to fighting two men at once is to be much tougher than both of them.
                          -Daniel Tosh

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                            #14
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                            armbar them, fuck the rules!! <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

                            I think "Asia" will be able to help you on this.

                            Can't you just try to use the guard/sweeps n stuff, pushing away with your hands/legs?
                            They have good pinning combinations though don't they?


                            oo wait wait, 30lbs lighter - try benching them off you <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

                            LOL, I have actually arm barred a few people there when I was playing around, and heel hooked one guy caused he pissed me off. But no I haven't had a chance to use any sweeps, and yeah I've just started running and lifting 3 days/week.

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                              #15
                              Sorry, but I can't give you any advice after you broke my heart with this thread's title. I was hoping it'd be about your inner conflict between your love for a Catholic girl and your desire to obey your ultraconservative Protestant upbringing.
                              How strange, I'm dating a Catholic girl and I was brought up in an ultraconservative Protestant home.

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